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Title: pre amp or battery box for edirol @ loud rock shows?
Post by: tomac on May 12, 2007, 12:02:38 PM
Hey there.  I have taken the suggestions on the board here about looking into church equip. for a mic to use with my Edirol R-09.  Now I'm wondering if I need to go with his preamp unit or if just a battery box is sufficient.  I'm using the church cardioid microphones at loud rock venues of about 10,000 seats.  I guess the less I carry in the better but I want good quality in the end.  Thanks in advance for your thoughts...

T
Title: Re: pre amp or battery box for edirol @ loud rock shows?
Post by: Church-Audio on May 12, 2007, 12:21:38 PM
Hey there.  I have taken the suggestions on the board here about looking into church equip. for a mic to use with my Edirol R-09.  Now I'm wondering if I need to go with his preamp unit or if just a battery box is sufficient.  I'm using the church cardioid microphones at loud rock venues of about 10,000 seats.  I guess the less I carry in the better but I want good quality in the end.  Thanks in advance for your thoughts...

T

If you have an edirol R-09 and my cardioid mics you dont even need a battery box.. You can go right into the R-09 but if your in shows that are not loud you at some time might need a preamp. So I would just get my mics first and see how you make out.. I have plenty of customers that just use my mics with no battery box or preamp, as long as your just taping loud stuff you should be ok.

Chris
Title: Re: pre amp or battery box for edirol @ loud rock shows?
Post by: Nixoo on May 12, 2007, 03:28:57 PM
Anyone, maybe Crhis, got an idea about settings in the situation mentioned? The R-09 gives 3 volts of plug in power right? Is that enough to get a proper load for full dynamics on the mics? If so, should I set the R-09 to mic gain hi or low? With the preamp, I'd use low and gain up using the pre-amp. Also, since the CA preamp has a hipass filter built in, when not using the preamp would you suggest the lowcut on the R-09?
Title: Re: pre amp or battery box for edirol @ loud rock shows?
Post by: Church-Audio on May 12, 2007, 03:33:49 PM
Anyone, maybe Crhis, got an idea about settings in the situation mentioned? The R-09 gives 3 volts of plug in power right? Is that enough to get a proper load for full dynamics on the mics? If so, should I set the R-09 to mic gain hi or low? With the preamp, I'd use low and gain up using the pre-amp. Also, since the CA preamp has a hipass filter built in, when not using the preamp would you suggest the lowcut on the R-09?

When using my mics I suggest you dont use the low cut you dont need it. Unless the music you are recording is ridiculously bottom end heavy..

I wish I knew what the settings were for the R-09 but I dont I have never owned one. I do know that I have customers that record very loud shows from time to time with just the R-09 and my mics..
Chris
Title: Re: pre amp or battery box for edirol @ loud rock shows?
Post by: Nixoo on May 12, 2007, 04:40:29 PM
That was quick :) Thanks, I'll try the no-amp then in my first stealth job!
Title: Re: pre amp or battery box for edirol @ loud rock shows?
Post by: guysonic on May 12, 2007, 07:34:03 PM
Anyone, maybe Crhis, got an idea about settings in the situation mentioned? The R-09 gives 3 volts of plug in power right? Is that enough to get a proper load for full dynamics on the mics? If so, should I set the R-09 to mic gain hi or low? With the preamp, I'd use low and gain up using the pre-amp. Also, since the CA preamp has a hipass filter built in, when not using the preamp would you suggest the lowcut on the R-09?

When using my mics I suggest you dont use the low cut you dont need it. Unless the music you are recording is ridiculously bottom end heavy..

I wish I knew what the settings were for the R-09 but I don't I have never owned one. I do know that I have customers that record very loud shows from time to time with just the R-09 and my mics..
Chris


Mic input set on 'LOW' sensitivity, NO filter and AUTO level OFF is suggested using these mics for pop/rock venue. 

Remember to TURN MIC POWER ON in the menu if not using external battery box.
Title: Re: pre amp or battery box for edirol @ loud rock shows?
Post by: Nixoo on May 13, 2007, 03:34:12 AM


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Mic input set on 'LOW' sensitivity, NO filter and AUTO level OFF is suggested using these mics for pop/rock venue. 

Remember to TURN MIC POWER ON in the menu if not using external battery box.
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Thanks for that! I'd give a +T if I had any to give away :)
Title: Re: pre amp or battery box for edirol @ loud rock shows?
Post by: dominar on May 21, 2007, 07:16:10 PM
Just wanted to say thanks for the useful thread!
Title: Re: pre amp or battery box for edirol @ loud rock shows?
Post by: muziklvr on July 17, 2007, 05:28:08 PM
That was quick :) Thanks, I'll try the no-amp then in my first stealth job!

Did you try this?  Just wondering how it turned out. :)