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Title: PS2 > ?? > R09
Post by: Scuba Jeremy on May 28, 2007, 08:50:24 PM
I'm looking to shrink down my rig before festival season. Currently, I'm running my PS2 > XLR(M)-XLR(M) > XLR(F)-RCA(F) > 1/4(M)-RCA(f) > RCA-1/8 to get into my R09. The line transformers in the mix seem to work, but the setup is over 7" long!! There has to be a smaller setup.

I have this cable (http://www.hosatech.com/hosa/products/yxf-247_and_yxf-305.html), but it's not working between my PS2 and R09. I imagine I need some kind of line transformers - what do I need?
Title: Re: PS2 > ?? > R09
Post by: drewloo on May 28, 2007, 11:33:20 PM
I have this cable (http://www.hosatech.com/hosa/products/yxf-247_and_yxf-305.html)

Maybe try another cable like the one you already have.  I've used a similar cable between a ps2 and an r-09 and it worked good for me.  I have also seen at least 1 ps2 that has been modded w/ the xlr's removed and had a 1/8 instead.
Title: Re: PS2 > ?? > R09
Post by: tenesejedd on May 28, 2007, 11:54:13 PM
I have this cable (http://www.hosatech.com/hosa/products/yxf-247_and_yxf-305.html)

Maybe try another cable like the one you already have.  I've used a similar cable between a ps2 and an r-09 and it worked good for me.  I have also seen at least 1 ps2 that has been modded w/ the xlr's removed and had a 1/8 instead.

you do need a line booster in the chain, otherwise you won't have a strong enough signal to record. Hosa makes line boosters, do a search for them on the hosa website. It is an xlr>1/4. You may need a variety of interconnects to get it to 1/8"
Title: Re: PS2 > ?? > R09
Post by: drewloo on May 29, 2007, 06:22:28 PM
I have this cable (http://www.hosatech.com/hosa/products/yxf-247_and_yxf-305.html)

Maybe try another cable like the one you already have.  I've used a similar cable between a ps2 and an r-09 and it worked good for me.  I have also seen at least 1 ps2 that has been modded w/ the xlr's removed and had a 1/8 instead.

you do need a line booster in the chain, otherwise you won't have a strong enough signal to record. Hosa makes line boosters, do a search for them on the hosa website. It is an xlr>1/4. You may need a variety of interconnects to get it to 1/8"

It depends on what type of music is being recorded and what mics are used.  I went ps2>r-09 with no problem at all for Joe Bonnamasa.  Had to set the gain pretty high on the r-09, around 25 IIRC, but it worked and sounded fine.  I'd at least try that first before spending $$ on xformers.  I don't think it would work too good on acoustic or quiet sources, though.
Title: Re: PS2 > ?? > R09
Post by: SmokinJoe on May 31, 2007, 09:44:29 PM
I've run a cable like you show between my Naks and the R-09 and it worked (Naks run on wierd batteries, so I don't need the PS/2).  Naks are known to have low output, and I had to use "mic in" with high sensitivity I believe.  I've got a Church ST-9100 preamp on the way, and this is one of the ways I plan to use it.
Title: Re: PS2 > ?? > R09
Post by: Scuba Jeremy on June 07, 2007, 06:48:58 PM
Does anyone know if this will go from lo-z to hi-z?

I'd like to add that gain stage before the audio hits the R09.

These are the adapters I'm using now, and it's just too big:

F>F XLR Coupler (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062441&cp=&sr=1&origkw=xlr+coupler&kw=xlr+coupler&parentPage=search) (x2)
M XLR > Transformer > RCA F (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062444&cp=&sr=1&origkw=transformer+xlr&kw=transformer+xlr&parentPage=search) (x2)
1/4 Phono > RCA female (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103711&cp=&pg=2&sr=1&origkw=1%2F4+rca&kw=1%2F4+rca&parentPage=search) (x2)
RCA > 1/8 (Similar) (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2456454&cp=&pg=1&searchSort=TRUE&sr=1&y=7&retainProdsInSession=1&origkw=rca+3.5mm&x=8&kw=rca+3.5mm&s=A-StorePrice-RSK&parentPage=search) (x1)

That works great. Line level from the PS2 - It's just monsterous - about a foot long. Would the above transformer work with the previously mentioned Hosa cable? Or would it not perform the lo-z hi-z transformation?
Title: Re: PS2 > ?? > R09
Post by: SmokinJoe on June 07, 2007, 08:29:08 PM
I don't think you need transformers here.  Without rambling on about volts/ohms/amps, I think lo-Z mics can go into a Hi-Z preamp OK.  The problem comes if you try to run Hi-Z mics into a Lo-Z input.  That's what I've read, and the reasons make sense.  Try it... the proof is in the pudding.