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Title: Shockmounts
Post by: DMBprez on June 19, 2007, 01:49:22 AM
Anywhere that I can get the shockmounts that come with the Superlux SMK set for cheap?


Also... Anywhere I can get something to run these bad boys XY?  Thanks a ton in advance for any help.



Cheers.
Title: Re: Shockmounts
Post by: J.T.L on June 19, 2007, 05:26:21 PM
shocks:
http://www.superlux.us/smalldiaphragm.html

vertbar:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/68616-REG/Shure_A27M_A27M_Stereo_Stand_Adapter.html
Title: Re: Shockmounts
Post by: willndmb on June 20, 2007, 10:11:01 AM
you can also run xy much cheaper by using a tbar and a riser
that will cost you approx $25 if you don't have a tbar already
Title: Re: Shockmounts
Post by: DMBprez on June 20, 2007, 11:08:46 AM
you can also run xy much cheaper by using a tbar and a riser
that will cost you approx $25 if you don't have a tbar already


Link to anything?  Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Shockmounts
Post by: J.T.L on June 20, 2007, 12:23:33 PM
you can also run xy much cheaper by using a tbar and a riser
that will cost you approx $25 if you don't have a tbar already

...true, but I always liked a vert bar better imo.

riser:
http://www.atlassound.com/products/partNumber.cfm?pn=AD-7B

stereo bar:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/286149-REG/AKG_KM235_1_KM235_1_Stereo_Microphone_Bar.html

shocks like the superlux but stronger:
http://www.frontendaudio.com/Avant_Electronics_SSM_Metal_Shock_Mount_for_Small_p/9680.htm
Title: Re: Shockmounts
Post by: dean on June 20, 2007, 01:22:22 PM
I like the vert bar if I'm going to get into a fight after the gig.  But getting a riser for my t-bar allowed me to drop that 8 lb. vert bar out of my bag for 90% of all occasions.

Seriously, if you hit someone with a vert bar, you'd kill 'em.  That's a serious hunk of metal!  I'm really pleased with my riser as an alternative.
Title: Re: Shockmounts
Post by: bgalizio on June 20, 2007, 01:32:01 PM
Here's the Atlas riser, with free shipping too:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AD7B/
Title: Re: Shockmounts
Post by: rowjimmy on June 20, 2007, 01:32:08 PM
Speaking of hunks of metal...

Those Avant shocks are not light BUT the superlux ones are crap. Mine began literally falling apart in my hands last show I tried to use them.
Title: Re: Shockmounts
Post by: DMBprez on June 20, 2007, 05:09:46 PM
Yeah, I taped Revision the other night, and I wound up MASKING TAPING my mics to a half shockmount.

I was less than pleased.
Title: Re: Shockmounts
Post by: 612 on June 22, 2007, 02:31:48 PM
Hey +Ts all around for the riser links. I need to get me one.
Title: Re: Shockmounts
Post by: NOLAfishwater on July 23, 2007, 10:50:57 AM
I think I might buy a pair of the Avantone shockmounts and get rid of the heavy AT's that I have.  All noobs should check out these suggestions before buying shockmounts.

+T J.T.L. for the great links.
Title: Re: Shockmounts
Post by: F.O.Bean on July 23, 2007, 11:30:30 AM
avatone shocks SUCK. I used them for 2 shows before selling them

1. theyre WAY TOO HEAVY

2. the rubber bands come off VERY EASILY.....
Title: Re: Shockmounts
Post by: jkbyram on July 23, 2007, 11:35:23 AM
I think I might buy a pair of the Avantone shockmounts and get rid of the heavy AT's that I have.  All noobs should check out these suggestions before buying shockmounts.

+T J.T.L. for the great links.

i use the avantones and agree with bean, they are very heavy. they weigh more than the AT's so if you are planning on moving to them to cut weight look at other options. they work well for me though. as far as the bands coming off, they do come off easily but i use mine with only 4 bands per mount and have no problems anymore. they ship them with extra bands on there that are not needed. using them with my vert bar is heavy, thank goodness i have a sturdy stand.
Title: Re: Shockmounts
Post by: NOLAfishwater on July 23, 2007, 11:41:47 AM
Thanks for the quick feed back. Guess I will be staying with my AT's.
Title: Re: Shockmounts
Post by: jkbyram on July 23, 2007, 11:43:45 AM
one good thing about the avantone mounts is that you WILL NOT break them. lose bands maybe, but you will not break them. i thought about drilling out some of the metal to lighten them. they are one solid hunk of metal.
Title: Re: Shockmounts
Post by: F.O.Bean on July 23, 2007, 12:22:52 PM
one good thing about the avantone mounts is that you WILL NOT break them. lose bands maybe, but you will not break them. i thought about drilling out some of the metal to lighten them. they are one solid hunk of metal.

well, what good is a HD shock if you cant use it ???
Title: Re: Shockmounts
Post by: OFOTD on July 23, 2007, 12:59:12 PM
FWIW, I like the Avatone's.  I bought mine new after having used the AT's, Joe Meeks and a variety of other shocks.   While I do agree that they are heavy to me their durability, construction and ability to reduce vibration are just wonderful.  I have run them with all the bands as well as just four bands and haven't had any of them come off unless I did something to pop them off.  I can't imagine that they'd pop off on their own.  Additionally I take my time with them while loading a mic into them.

For me weight is not an issue because i'm running them with full bodied mics anyways which make mounting/clamping options slimmer.  My Superclamp and Shure Vert Bar are heavier anyways.   As far as durability well shit if you can break these suckers then you are a crazier taper than me.  Comparing them to the AT's is a no brainer.  One word, low-pro.  While I loved my AT's the Avatones certainly take up less space visually. 

Alot of what we do is compromise.  Some like expensive cables, some like discount cables.  Some use a $5 fishing tackle bag while some use a Sonicase or PortaBrace.  Some prefer the Joe Meeks mounts and some like the Avatones.   You need to find your own compromise..  For me the Avatone's are the last full bodied mic shock mounts i'll buy and I like that.  I know several who have the Joe Meeks (of which I still have as well) and they're rational is that they're only $7 so if one breaks I'll replace it.  For the $50 I paid I never have to worry about any of that anymore.

So count me in as one vote FOR the Avatone's
   
Title: Re: Shockmounts
Post by: F.O.Bean on July 23, 2007, 04:13:52 PM
after using the  sambra-som, the avantone's and the AT 8415's, my vote goes to teh 8415's :) theyre more lightweight and lo-pro than the AT 8410's and are alot bvetter onstruction. also, you can upgrade the rubber mounts to the K-Tek K-Sus Heavy Duty rubber mounts(what I have) and are BULLETPROOF. I have had them for 3+ years with the k-tek mounts and they have lasted wonderfully to this point

ONLY downfall is, they cant be used with atives. or a DINa Kwon bar anyway.....the mini-xlr hits the sides of them and they are useless

i have a couple shure a53m's on the way for mya ctives and will let you know how they work out. for actives, i bet theyre a dream come true
Title: Re: Shockmounts
Post by: muj on July 23, 2007, 04:15:12 PM
I like the beyerdynamic ea86 ;D
Title: Re: Shockmounts
Post by: JiB97 on July 23, 2007, 04:24:40 PM
FWIW, I like the Avatone's.  I bought mine new after having used the AT's, Joe Meeks and a variety of other shocks.   While I do agree that they are heavy to me their durability, construction and ability to reduce vibration are just wonderful.  I have run them with all the bands as well as just four bands and haven't had any of them come off unless I did something to pop them off.  I can't imagine that they'd pop off on their own.  Additionally I take my time with them while loading a mic into them.

For me weight is not an issue because i'm running them with full bodied mics anyways which make mounting/clamping options slimmer.  My Superclamp and Shure Vert Bar are heavier anyways.   As far as durability well shit if you can break these suckers then you are a crazier taper than me.  Comparing them to the AT's is a no brainer.  One word, low-pro.  While I loved my AT's the Avatones certainly take up less space visually. 

Alot of what we do is compromise.  Some like expensive cables, some like discount cables.  Some use a $5 fishing tackle bag while some use a Sonicase or PortaBrace.  Some prefer the Joe Meeks mounts and some like the Avatones.   You need to find your own compromise..  For me the Avatone's are the last full bodied mic shock mounts i'll buy and I like that.  I know several who have the Joe Meeks (of which I still have as well) and they're rational is that they're only $7 so if one breaks I'll replace it.  For the $50 I paid I never have to worry about any of that anymore.

So count me in as one vote FOR the Avatone's
   

QFT.  I love these shocks, small, but durable as hell, and I never have to worry about them breaking. 

I've lost one the bands, but the package comes with 4 extra bands.  Also you can just go to Ace Hardware (or equivalent) and buy the exact same size o-ring, if needed. 

For me, at least, the AT and Sabrasom shocks are too big and clunky to fit in my bag, so I went with the small Avantones and haven't looked back.
Title: Re: Shockmounts
Post by: TNJazz on July 23, 2007, 04:29:09 PM
Take two rings off each end and they're VERY secure.  Haven't had bands pop off yet (although I did break one).

They are heavy, but so what?  It's not like you have to hold them up yourself the whole show.  That's what the stand is for.   ;D
Title: Re: Shockmounts
Post by: JiB97 on July 23, 2007, 04:30:27 PM
Take two rings off each end and they're VERY secure.  Haven't had bands pop off yet (although I did break one).

They are heavy, but so what?  It's not like you have to hold them up yourself the whole show.  That's what the stand is for.   ;D

I actually have hand held these mounts with 460s AND a Shure Vert bar.  My arms are still attached.  ;D
Title: Re: Shockmounts
Post by: F.O.Bean on July 23, 2007, 05:17:26 PM
Take two rings off each end and they're VERY secure.  Haven't had bands pop off yet (although I did break one).

They are heavy, but so what?  It's not like you have to hold them up yourself the whole show.  That's what the stand is for.   ;D

I actually have hand held these mounts with 460s AND a Shure Vert bar.  My arms are still attached.  ;D

THATS dedication ;D for what band?
Title: Re: Shockmounts
Post by: JiB97 on July 24, 2007, 07:26:14 AM
Take two rings off each end and they're VERY secure.  Haven't had bands pop off yet (although I did break one).

They are heavy, but so what?  It's not like you have to hold them up yourself the whole show.  That's what the stand is for.   ;D

I actually have hand held these mounts with 460s AND a Shure Vert bar.  My arms are still attached.  ;D

THATS dedication ;D for what band?

Allan Holdsworth Trio.   I was seated, which helped, as I would have had to stand the whole time and handhold the rig, which would have been even more uncomfortable.