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Title: TSKB: Glitches in recording?
Post by: Electric Cowgirl on June 19, 2007, 08:35:34 PM
Ok.  I ran AKG481>w UA5>laptop at Derek Trucks/Susan Tedeschi last Sat.  When I opened the recording to listen to it I found that it is full of little pops/clicks. :'(

I ran a global anaylsis in wavelabs6.0 and discovered that there are tons of what the program calls glitches.  This is different than clipping. 

Anyone have ideas on

A:  What caused this?
B:  How can I prevent this from happening again?
C:  Is there anyway to salvage this recording?

Thanks for any input. :D
Title: Re: TSKB: Glitches in recording?
Post by: spreadheadtom on June 19, 2007, 08:43:15 PM
fragmented harddrive?
Title: Re: TSKB: Glitches in recording?
Post by: momule on June 19, 2007, 08:47:00 PM
Hey Becky.  How about posting a small Sample and I'll see if I cant help ya out.
Title: Re: TSKB: Glitches in recording?
Post by: Electric Cowgirl on June 19, 2007, 11:58:36 PM
Wow this is lame, but how do I post a clip? :P
Title: Re: TSKB: Glitches in recording?
Post by: Will_S on June 20, 2007, 12:07:26 AM
There's a limit on file sizes for attachements that will limit you to a very short clip converted to flac.

I may also be able to help you out.  There are a few audio editors that will let you redraw the waveform by hand to eliminate the glitches, but if there are a ton of them it could take forever.  There are also pop/click removal programs meant for digitizing old LPs that may also help out.
Title: Re: TSKB: Glitches in recording?
Post by: momule on June 20, 2007, 08:32:37 AM
Just cut up a small piece (like a min or two) of a section that has a few pops and clicks and then upload it too one of the thousands of free file hosting services.  such as www.yousendit.com , www.mediafire.com

Then just post the link it will give ya in a PM or here in this thread. 

Title: Re: TSKB: Glitches in recording?
Post by: Electric Cowgirl on June 20, 2007, 03:58:02 PM
Sweet. I'll post a clip tonight after work.
Title: Re: TSKB: Glitches in recording?
Post by: Chuck on June 20, 2007, 08:51:35 PM
Help an old guy out with what that acronym is  ??? TSKB?
Title: Re: TSKB: Glitches in recording?
Post by: dean on June 20, 2007, 09:06:20 PM
TSKB = Tapers Section Knowledge Base.  A Knowledge Base, commonly referred to as a KB, is in common use for any kind of technology or other kind of help desk phone queue.  When you call in to a phone queue with a question about a product or piece of software, the person on the other end of the phone is feverishly entering key words from your question into an engine that searches through any number of KB's for likely answers, very much like searching for something in Google.

Becky, this makes me think of a recent thread here about high humidity recording, which can easily introduce pops and clicks into a recording.  If you were recording in that environment, it may simply be that.  If so, PM O-Canis for how to fix it.  He fixed an MMW recording of mine with that same issue...

Cheers,
Dean
Title: Re: TSKB: Glitches in recording?
Post by: Chuck on June 20, 2007, 09:39:41 PM
+T
Title: Re: TSKB: Glitches in recording?
Post by: dean on June 20, 2007, 09:47:30 PM
Backatcha!   :)
Title: Re: TSKB: Glitches in recording?
Post by: Roving Sign on June 21, 2007, 08:03:51 AM
TSKB = Tapers Section Knowledge Base.  A Knowledge Base, commonly referred to as a KB, is in common use for any kind of technology or other kind of help desk phone queue.  When you call in to a phone queue with a question about a product or piece of software, the person on the other end of the phone is feverishly entering key words from your question into an engine that searches through any number of KB's for likely answers, very much like searching for something in Google.

Although - "TSKB" is typically used in the open forums when addressing non-taping questions. The idea being - folks involved in this hobby are generally technical-minded smarties and may have other specialties beyond taping...thus the collective knowledge base.
Title: Re: TSKB: Glitches in recording?
Post by: Electric Cowgirl on June 29, 2007, 01:21:30 AM
Sweet. I'll post a clip tonight after work.

Eight days later I finally had time to accomplish this task :P 

Anyway if anyone out there still has time to check this out and give me some feedback on possible ways to fix this recording please post back ;D

The pops/clicks continue throughout the recording.

Here's a 16/44.1 MP3 clip.  THANKS!!

http://download.yousendit.com/41D3779A247A6F96
Title: Re: TSKB: Glitches in recording?
Post by: momule on June 29, 2007, 02:24:25 PM
Good news Becky. Its appears I am able to remove the clicks and pops and keep 99.9999% of the music intact. 

if ya wanna shoot me some flac's via torrent or snail mail.  I will be happy to fix it up for ya. 

here  (http://www.kctaper.com/DBT2007-06-16_(no%20crack)sample.mp3)is a fixed sample.

On a side note.  The file you uploaded was m4a format and not infact a MP3.  And you might doublecheck your file names.  DBT?  shouldn't that be DTB. 
Title: Re: TSKB: Glitches in recording?
Post by: heath on June 29, 2007, 03:21:28 PM
what are you de-popping/clicking with, out of curiosity?
Title: Re: TSKB: Glitches in recording?
Post by: momule on June 29, 2007, 04:06:42 PM
Either waves plugins or Bias sound soap. 
Title: Re: TSKB: Glitches in recording?
Post by: Electric Cowgirl on July 01, 2007, 11:52:45 AM
I want to de-pop and click a Derek Trucks + Susan Tedeschi show from the Fillmore.  The show was pretty freaking good and I was the only full rig.  A nice guy named Al had his stealth rig and ended up clamping to my stand.
Title: Re: TSKB: Glitches in recording?
Post by: Electric Cowgirl on July 01, 2007, 11:57:15 AM
momule you ROCK!!! +T a million times over.

Now how can I send you a private torrent?  Do you need it to be 16bit?  The orginal recording is 24/96 but I can convert it no problem.

And yes I have F-ed this one up almost every way possible ;D  At least I didn't forget to charge my batteries :P

Title: Re: TSKB: Glitches in recording?
Post by: momule on July 01, 2007, 10:45:35 PM
I can handle 24/96 if ya wanna ship that.  But we should do a flac DVD deal or somethin' as it will be easier IMO.

Or I can do the 16's aswell.  you just let me know. 

I'm glad were able to help ya out.  Sometimes it works sometimes it don't.  I love both derek and susan so I am happy to help.  Shoot me a pm and we can work details.
Title: Re: TSKB: Glitches in recording?
Post by: heath on July 03, 2007, 08:56:40 AM
Either waves plugins or Bias sound soap. 

excellent.  how do you like sound soap?  i haven't played with it much...is it highly adjustable?
Title: Re: TSKB: Glitches in recording?
Post by: momule on July 03, 2007, 05:16:56 PM
Either waves plugins or Bias sound soap. 

excellent.  how do you like sound soap?  i haven't played with it much...is it highly adjustable?

Not really, But it is effective.
I would say the Waves plugins work a bit better and are just about stupid proof. 
Title: Re: TSKB: Glitches in recording?
Post by: Electric Cowgirl on July 03, 2007, 05:59:03 PM
Great! Are talking about wavelabs plugin?  If so is it compatible with wavelabs 6.0 and where can I get it?
Title: Re: TSKB: Glitches in recording?
Post by: momule on July 03, 2007, 06:27:29 PM
Yup there cool with wavelab 6 and anything else that runs Direct X plugins.  Not sure if they make a VST version. You can find them @ www.Waves.com

The waves click and waves crackle plugins can be found a couple different plugin packages (Just remember to bring your Credit card)  ;D
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Title: Re: TSKB: Glitches in recording?
Post by: Electric Cowgirl on July 05, 2007, 06:33:06 PM
Ouch!  Don't think my card can take this kind of hit right now.
Title: Re: TSKB: Glitches in recording?
Post by: momule on July 06, 2007, 05:19:34 PM
I'm going with fragmented drive.