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Gear / Technical Help => Recording Gear => Topic started by: twoheadedboy on June 20, 2007, 02:02:04 AM
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Here's my signal chain: DSM-6S/EL > PA-24NJ (+0 gain, 90hz roll-off) > Edirol R-09 (mic gain low, AGC off, low cut off, stereo ext mic, input volume set to "7").
I saw no red flashing light on the preamp, which I believe only kicks in at -3dB, and the deck averaged about -12 to -10db.
Here's the kicker...this was Tool, and it was absolutely the loudest bass I have ever heard at a concert. I was at the back of the floor in front of the soundboard and it was rattling my ribcage and jaw almost constantly (thank god for -20dB ear plugs).
I have taped a lot of shows at a lot of different venues, with a lot of loud, bass-heavy bands, and I've never had this problem before.
EDIT: Ok, looking at the EQ upon playback, it looks like a skateboard ramp...not good. I mean, it looks like I taped a normal rock show WITHOUT roll-off, but again, I'm positive I had it set to 90hz. That's the most aggressive roll-off setting that I have, what do I do in the future? And can this be fixed at all?
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Why use mic in?
I use line in all the time and set for 5, 6 or so. No problem at all.
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What he said, esp. for Tool...
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I'm going to venture a guess and say the problem has nothing to do with the PA system that Tool is playing through.
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Here's my signal chain: DSM-6S/EL > PA-24NJ (+0 gain, 90hz roll-off) > Edirol R-09 (mic gain low, AGC off, low cut off, stereo ext mic, input volume set to "7").
I saw no red flashing light on the preamp, which I believe only kicks in at -3dB, and the deck averaged about -12 to -10db.
Here's the kicker...this was Tool, and it was absolutely the loudest bass I have ever heard at a concert. I was at the back of the floor in front of the soundboard and it was rattling my ribcage and jaw almost constantly (thank god for -20dB ear plugs).
I have taped a lot of shows at a lot of different venues, with a lot of loud, bass-heavy bands, and I've never had this problem before.
EDIT: Ok, looking at the EQ upon playback, it looks like a skateboard ramp...not good. I mean, it looks like I taped a normal rock show WITHOUT roll-off, but again, I'm positive I had it set to 90hz. That's the most aggressive roll-off setting that I have, what do I do in the future? And can this be fixed at all?
I agree with line-in - that is all I ever use. Also, you could have Church mod your mics with the 4.7k resistor mod. That could help...
My .02
+t
for your recording issues, though...I'm going thru some myself right now...
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Wow...why DID I use mic in?
I totally had a brain fart last night...jeez.
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I had the same sort of problem. I was running some electrets through a battery box to mic-in by mistake. The meters looked OK, like 1- 12dB of headroom. Wrong! Brickwalled the whole set. Both of us have to be more careful in the future. I got the next two sets through line-in and they were fine. 8)
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Haha, I was reading the OP's post and got to "mic in" and had to laugh.
I've done the exact same thing, it sucks to realize, that's for sure.