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Title: have question about Taping LoudBand w/ Microtrack & CSB
Post by: nuttn on June 26, 2007, 02:32:58 PM
ok tonight i am taping very LOUD BAND in a very strict venue..
ultrastealth mode as they are anal....

anybody have suggestions of setting up the Microtrack with CSB's and Bass Rolloff, or the AT853's and a SP bass roll off?

Also have a -20dB attenuator cable I could use.....

I have owned the Microtrack like 24 hours so its all new...

basically give me suggestions to try the toys...

peace and Thanks..
HenryJ


ps
WOB TaX: will share the music on dime this weekend...

Title: Re: Taping Wolfmother tonight.... Microtrack w/ CSB or AT853's
Post by: run_run_run on June 26, 2007, 03:15:00 PM
Maybe not give to much info here, big brother is watching.
Title: Re: Taping Wolfmother tonight.... Microtrack w/ CSB or AT853's
Post by: imgoinmad on June 26, 2007, 03:41:29 PM
watch out at that casino, they're kinda funny about electronic devices
Title: Re: Taping Wolfmother tonight.... Microtrack w/ CSB or AT853's
Post by: nuttn on June 26, 2007, 04:15:07 PM
i have already recieved my certified letter from another "EVIL VENUE" never to come back again!

no biggie...
Title: Re: Taping Wolfmother tonight.... Microtrack w/ CSB or AT853's
Post by: SparkE! on June 26, 2007, 04:21:07 PM
Wow, HenryJ, I figured you'd be using a NJB3.  :P

If the choice is between your CSBs and your AT853s, I'd choose the CSBs.  As I remember, your AT853s always sounded like they were brickwalling.  I swear there's something wrong with that particular set of mics. Your CSB recordings were always much better and they're more stealthy anyway.

**History: My first live recording (except for a couple of tries with a cassette deck back in the 70's) was with a MZ-R37 and AT853s, borrowed from HenryJ.  It was a great show, but a terrible, terrible recording.  Very boomy and clipped sounding.**
Title: Re: Taping Wolfmother tonight.... Microtrack w/ CSB or AT853's
Post by: Fatah Ruark (aka MIKE B) on June 26, 2007, 04:22:56 PM
Why don't you change that bandname and venue to "xxxxxxxx" at "xxxxxxxx"

I don't think it's a bad idea to say your going to steath, but there's no reason to say who and where. Just ask your question and ask that we respond via PM's.

Good luck, and have fun.

Oh, and second vote for the CSB's. Smaller is better under your circumstances.
Title: Re: Taping Wolfmother tonight.... Microtrack w/ CSB or AT853's
Post by: nuttn on June 26, 2007, 05:08:30 PM
Wow, HenryJ, I figured you'd be using a NJB3.  :P


I owned 2 different NJB3's

first one was worthless, 2nd one after RMA was even more worthless...

Title: Re: Taping ** LoudBand** tonight.... Microtrack w/ CSB or AT853's
Post by: dunebug81 on June 26, 2007, 05:16:51 PM
Wow certified letter!!  you must have done a number on that place.  while ive never been busted  a simple "you need to leave and never come bac, sir" is good enough for me
Title: Re: Taping ** LoudBand** tonight.... Microtrack w/ CSB or AT853's
Post by: nuttn on June 26, 2007, 05:31:57 PM
Wow certified letter!!  you must have done a number on that place.  while ive never been busted  a simple "you need to leave and never come bac, sir" is good enough for me



best part I used 2 PCM-M1's at the time, and they only got 1 tape, the whole conversation was recorded on 2nd source...

Classic!
Title: Re: Taping ** LoudBand** tonight.... Microtrack w/ CSB or AT853's
Post by: SparkE! on June 26, 2007, 06:36:51 PM
Wow certified letter!!  you must have done a number on that place.  while ive never been busted  a simple "you need to leave and never come bac, sir" is good enough for me



best part I used 2 PCM-M1's at the time, and they only got 1 tape, the whole conversation was recorded on 2nd source...

Classic!

Yup, it was pretty funny stuff.  HenryJ posted the clip (named "busted") on another messageboard and you could hear the whole sequence of events.
Title: Re: Taping ** LoudBand** tonight.... Microtrack w/ CSB or AT853's
Post by: nuttn on June 26, 2007, 07:34:54 PM
ok  now what settings do ii select   

this thing has to many options
Title: Re: have question about Taping LoudBand w/ Microtrack & CSB
Post by: nuttn on June 27, 2007, 01:05:12 PM
Ok I used the CSB> Bass Roll off (Filter setting) > -20db Attenuator > Line In > Microtrack.
The levels were at the highest possible and I feel the recording is still very quiet, or recorded at two low of a level..

What would happen if I removed the -20db Attenuator  and recorded ? would this create brickwalling?

Thanks
Title: Re: have question about Taping LoudBand w/ Microtrack & CSB
Post by: nuttn on June 29, 2007, 12:25:24 AM
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case anybody wants to hear the failure...
Title: Re: have question about Taping LoudBand w/ Microtrack & CSB
Post by: beefstew on June 29, 2007, 01:07:11 AM
you can always add gain and volume in post :D
Title: Re: have question about Taping LoudBand w/ Microtrack & CSB
Post by: stantheman1976 on June 29, 2007, 08:04:47 AM
Remove the attenuator and just cut the levels on the microtrack a little to compensate for it's absence.  You can keep it on and amplify in post, but if the recording is REALLY low it will introduce hiss during amplification.  From what I understand cardioid mics are a little more suited for loud shows.  Maybe borrow some from the loaner program and try them with the same setup.