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Title: Been A While-Patching Question
Post by: wjlapier on September 21, 2007, 04:32:34 PM
Yep, a newb question about patching considering I haven't been to a show in over 4 yrs and because it seems dat is dying/dead.  What's the patching situation these days?  Are there still alot of dat decks rolling at shows?  Is it possible to get a patch off the newer HD recorders?  Do you guys still see many DAT decks rolling with mics/amps/ad's?  Just curious,

Bill
Title: Re: Been A While-Patching Question
Post by: coloartist on September 21, 2007, 04:40:41 PM
Plenty of people have SPDIF out of their decks. Not Microtracks, but alot of others have a digital out (Tascam, Sound Devices, and others.)
Title: Re: Been A While-Patching Question
Post by: BWolf on September 21, 2007, 04:42:30 PM
Plenty of people have SPDIF out of their decks. Not Microtracks, but alot of others have a digital out (Tascam, Sound Devices, and others.)

The SD digital out is a BNC connector, so if you want to patch, bring the adapter for the end of your digi cable...
Title: Re: Been A While-Patching Question
Post by: dgodwin on September 21, 2007, 04:44:07 PM
a R4 has coax digital out.  A R-1 and an iRiver both have a optical mini out.  Most patchers I've had recently just wanted an analog out...
Title: Re: Been A While-Patching Question
Post by: easy jim on September 21, 2007, 05:19:29 PM
R-4 Pro has AES (XLR connector) for digi out and two pairs of RCA outs (one each for all 4 channels).

Some external pres and A>D boxes also have multiple outs.
Title: Re: Been A While-Patching Question
Post by: taosmay on September 21, 2007, 08:24:05 PM
I still use my D100 dat for patching at shows, although it is getting rare to see dat decks. When I was at Nedfest this year 2 dat decks were patched out of a HD-P2(was that you coloartist?). Most rigs are running at 24bit/48k, so a digi out from them gets truncated to 16bit/48k.

Harold
Title: Re: Been A While-Patching Question
Post by: Kindguy on September 21, 2007, 08:46:56 PM
I still use my D100 dat for patching at shows, although it is getting rare to see dat decks. When I was at Nedfest this year 2 dat decks were patched out of a HD-P2(was that you coloartist?). Most rigs are running at 24bit/48k, so a digi out from them gets truncated to 16bit/48k.

Harold

I've done this at several shows & it did not get truncated to 16bit/48k. Using my JB3 & d100. But it may have been my d7 not the d100

both times the recordings sound like haunted house noise. Real slowwwww.

Patching off Chris's P2 & weeks 722
Title: Re: Been A While-Patching Question
Post by: taosmay on September 21, 2007, 08:56:14 PM
If that's the case, I'm confused. Maybe "truncated" is the wrong term. Is the JB3 capable of recording at 24bit? The d7 and d100 are not capable of recording at 24bit, only 16bit. What is the correct term for when a digital recorder recording at 24bit sends a digi output to a recorder only capable of recording at 16bit?
Title: Re: Been A While-Patching Question
Post by: Kindguy on September 21, 2007, 09:04:20 PM
If that's the case, I'm confused. Maybe "truncated" is the wrong term. Is the JB3 capable of recording at 24bit? The d7 and d100 are not capable of recording at 24bit, only 16bit. What is the correct term for when a digital recorder recording at 24bit sends a digi output to a recorder only capable of recording at 16bit?

The JB3 is only 16bit. I'm pretty sure that's the right term.

My try's/tests tell me a 24bit recorder when recording 24bit. Will send a 24bit signal. The JB3 for sure, try's to record 24bit. It doesn't dither down to 16bit.
Title: Re: Been A While-Patching Question
Post by: Brian Skalinder on September 21, 2007, 09:38:05 PM
The JB3, D7, D8, etc. are all 16-bit recorders.  Taosmay is correct:  they truncate the least significant 8 bits.  The slowdown issue Kindguy experienced was probably a mismatch between the WAV header sample rate and the data sample rate.