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Title: Soundfield users....
Post by: spreadheadtom on October 04, 2007, 11:59:35 AM
I may have the opportunity to run one this weekend.  I never have before and am kinda nervous about it.



Tips on how I should run it?



If anyone remembers John McGee, it's his old mic.
Title: Re: Soundfield users....
Post by: vanark on October 04, 2007, 12:01:11 PM
Is this WM's mic now?
Title: Re: Soundfield users....
Post by: spreadheadtom on October 04, 2007, 12:01:47 PM
Is this WM's mic now?

It's the one he uses sometimes.  It does not belong to him.
Title: Re: Soundfield users....
Post by: vanark on October 04, 2007, 12:13:10 PM
It's the one he uses sometimes.  It does not belong to him.

I see.  That part was never clear (one way or the other) to me.
Title: Re: Soundfield users....
Post by: spreadheadtom on October 04, 2007, 12:17:37 PM
It's the one he uses sometimes.  It does not belong to him.

I see.  That part was never clear (one way or the other) to me.

The guy that owns it was dear friends with John...I believe is name is Andy.  He introduced himself to me the first time he ran it.  He was pretty scared about running it, be we figured it out.

It makes me sick to know what he paid for it.  I offered to quadruple his money, but it was a no go  :(
Title: Re: Soundfield users....
Post by: vanark on October 04, 2007, 12:20:46 PM
Good luck with the pull, Tommy.  Hope someone else is able to give you some advice on how to use that baby.
Title: Re: Soundfield users....
Post by: stirinthesauce on October 04, 2007, 12:49:24 PM
Didn't Joe W. run one at bonnaroo this year some from the board?  PM him.  Also, Nicks Picks used to own one, pm him,
Title: Re: Soundfield users....
Post by: Tim on October 04, 2007, 01:53:10 PM
I ran Jef-O's for awhile when I traded him my u89s

It's a sweet mic and I'd love to run one again sometime.

What's the situation like - venue? size? taping position? can you get fob? what type of music?

One thing to pay attention to is making sure the mic is facing straight ahead. It sounds silly but with the way the mic is shaped it can turn in the shockmount, just a few degrees and you'll hear it.

Get back with more details and I'm sure Nick can give you some great advice. I'll chip in with what I know too

You're gonna love it ;D
Title: Re: Soundfield users....
Post by: spreadheadtom on October 04, 2007, 02:01:37 PM
I ran Jef-O's for awhile when I traded him my u89s

It's a sweet mic and I'd love to run one again sometime.

What's the situation like - venue? size? taping position? can you get fob? what type of music?

One thing to pay attention to is making sure the mic is facing straight ahead. It sounds silly but with the way the mic is shaped it can turn in the shockmount, just a few degrees and you'll hear it.

Get back with more details and I'm sure Nick can give you some great advice. I'll chip in with what I know too

You're gonna love it ;D


Oteil and the Peacemakers....Gibson Lounge (very nice sounding).....FOB for sure.
Title: Re: Soundfield users....
Post by: Nick's Picks on October 04, 2007, 02:09:26 PM
ok...
if you are going to be in the sweetspot and all is good....

-20db pad ENGAGED !!!!!!
first and foremost.

one of 4 methods from here:
1. blumlein.  put it in figure of 8 and width straight up at 12:00 (90deg).  Hard to beat, given good recording situations. 
2. Cards (or a little less/more) at 90-130deg (12>2:30 on the width dial).
3. M-S
4. B-format (4chan raw, mix it in post to whatever polar pattern / width combo you find most pleaseing).

Personally, hard to beat #1.  total 3D

#2 sounds really nice too, less chatty.
Title: Re: Soundfield users....
Post by: sygdwm on October 04, 2007, 02:11:15 PM

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Oteil and the Peacemakers....Gibson Lounge (very nice sounding).....FOB for sure.

you taped there before tommy? it does sound very nice in there.
Title: Re: Soundfield users....
Post by: spreadheadtom on October 04, 2007, 02:11:56 PM


-20db pad ENGAGED !!!!!!
first and foremost.



Even with the -20 engaged on the 671?

thanks for the info Nick!!!
Title: Re: Soundfield users....
Post by: Tim on October 04, 2007, 02:30:29 PM
ok...
if you are going to be in the sweetspot and all is good....

-20db pad ENGAGED !!!!!!
first and foremost.

one of 4 methods from here:
1. blumlein.  put it in figure of 8 and width straight up at 12:00 (90deg).  Hard to beat, given good recording situations. 
2. Cards (or a little less/more) at 90-130deg (12>2:30 on the width dial).
3. M-S
4. B-format (4chan raw, mix it in post to whatever polar pattern / width combo you find most pleaseing).

Personally, hard to beat #1.  total 3D

#2 sounds really nice too, less chatty.

good stuff here! blumlein my friend, blumlein - then send me a copy!



Even with the -20 engaged on the 671?

thanks for the info Nick!!!

Yes! the mic will overload without it
Title: Re: Soundfield users....
Post by: Nick's Picks on October 04, 2007, 02:32:43 PM
yes.
the mic will clip.

if you see a red light come on (and stay on) on the control unit, you're fucked.
:)
just run the pad, and you'll be golden.  the mic is *very* sensitive, and it will clip w/o the pad engaged. 
get a pair of C batteries for it, phantom power it from the box (dont ask me why, i just like it that way).
dont pad the deck. 
the signal will be a HOT mic signal, or a WEAK line level.  its sort of a matter of which one you want to deal with.  cranking open the attenuation w/the line level (what i'd do), or using a lot (likely) on the mic input.
I'd go line in, run the Marantz around 8.  the pad shouldn't be needed there.
Title: Re: Soundfield users....
Post by: Nick's Picks on October 04, 2007, 02:33:51 PM
oh...and then upload it somewhere.
:)
+T
Title: Re: Soundfield users....
Post by: Patrick on October 04, 2007, 05:14:08 PM
Tommy, PM jimmyrow on here; he owns a Soundfield and I'm sure will help you out. 
Title: Re: Soundfield users....
Post by: zman on October 21, 2007, 10:09:09 AM
Nick, you are worldly!
Title: Re: Soundfield users....
Post by: Nick's Picks on October 21, 2007, 02:28:45 PM
thats what the chicks say...
Title: Re: Soundfield users....
Post by: carlbeck on October 23, 2007, 10:33:58 PM
thats what the chicks say...


The dudes in Bristow agree  :yikes: