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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: pepper on October 17, 2007, 05:42:35 AM
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Anyone have one,used one for taping,just curious what they are like for the price.Itll be mainly for open taping more than stealth,but just wanted some 1st hand opinions from anyone who has used one before buying.Any help, advice ( even mp3 samples) are very welcome.
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http://www.minidisco.com/ecm-ms907.html
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,49592.0.html
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,79706.msg1060777.html#msg1060777
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,42467.msg546742.html#msg546742
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,9994.msg119300.html#msg119300
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,18678.msg237284.html#msg237284
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,26779.msg335991.html#msg335991
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To sum it up, as Sony ECM mics go, this is not a bad one. It is a Mid-Side mic config internally, and has a switch that changes the mid-side balance 90 > 120. Frequency response is less than desireable, 100Hz - 15kHz, but will still sound decent if you have nothing else to compare it to. Listen to this show on a similar mic (ECM-737) http://www.archive.org/details/jwpp2007-10-06.ats.flac16 (http://www.archive.org/details/jwpp2007-10-06.ats.flac16) compared to this one, http://www.archive.org/details/jwpp2007-10-06.ats.flac16 (http://www.archive.org/details/jwpp2007-10-06.ats.flac16) taped at the same time from the same location using better equipment to get an idea what the difference is.
Being a single point stereo mic it is easy to set up. It has an internal battery that lasts forever, so you can go line-in without a battery box. Whether it's right for you depends on your needs, budget and what else is available to you.
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To sum it up, as Sony ECM mics go, this is not a bad one. It is a Mid-Side mic config internally, and has a switch that changes the mid-side balance 90 > 120. Frequency response is less than desireable, 100Hz - 15kHz, but will still sound decent if you have nothing else to compare it to. Listen to this show on a similar mic (ECM-737) http://www.archive.org/details/jwpp2007-10-06.ats.flac16 (http://www.archive.org/details/jwpp2007-10-06.ats.flac16) compared to this one, http://www.archive.org/details/jwpp2007-10-06.ats.flac16 (http://www.archive.org/details/jwpp2007-10-06.ats.flac16) taped at the same time from the same location using better equipment to get an idea what the difference is.
Being a single point stereo mic it is easy to set up. It has an internal battery that lasts forever, so you can go line-in without a battery box. Whether it's right for you depends on your needs, budget and what else is available to you.
you can´t go line-in with these selfpowered mics - almost no signal on line-in because these sony mics are way too insensitive. tried that with the 907 and the 719 mics from sony on a MD-recorders line-in several times.
you can use them for mic-in recordings at high SPL.
have been using this mic in the 1990ies a lot.
it´s a pain to mount this mic especially for stealth-taping.
you need to hold it in your hand ......
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I have a ecm 719 which i use a lot,i always go line in,have always done it that way.Just wanst sure if there was a great difference with the 719 and the ms907.
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To sum it up, as Sony ECM mics go, this is not a bad one. It is a Mid-Side mic config internally, and has a switch that changes the mid-side balance 90 > 120. Frequency response is less than desireable, 100Hz -
Being a single point stereo mic it is easy to set up. It has an internal battery that lasts forever, so you can go line-in without a battery box. Whether it's right for you depends on your needs, budget and what else is available to you.
Which is why i like the ecm-719 as it doesnt need a battery box.As far as my needs are concerned,just dont want to spend a fortune and get nice results.I record mainly rock shows so obviously something that can take a bit of volume.
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I used one with my first rig. I got lucky a few times and got a decent tape. But thats exactly it... got lucky and pulled a few decent ones. I go another route if at all possible.
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you can´t go line-in with these selfpowered mics
I really dont like to sound rude,but dont tell me i cant go line it with these mics,cause ive done it,many many many many times before.As long as ive had a battery in the mic( which is pretty obvious something it needs) ive been able to record line in no problem,and got some decent recordings from it i might add.Like i said i really dont mean to sound rude but youre trying to tell me i cant do something ive done endless times.I realise the ecm ms907 mic probably isnt the best option for stealth taping but it would be used for more open taping.
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I've also recorded dozens of shows with ECM-719 straight to the line-in of MZ-NH600D (euro model with line-in only). End result is a very quiet recording, which was easy to fix in post production. And during the whole time I used that combination, I didn't get even a single show with hissing problems.
That said, I'd still recommend against getting the Sony mics and going for something like Church Audio cardioids and a battery box instead, the quality difference is just huge.
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My first rig was a 907 and an Awia MD. It worked fine in open taping. I even used it with my JB3, and got good results. But like everyone else I upgraded to another rig when the upgrade bug bit.......
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I started with a 907 and a Sharp MD recorder back in the 90's.
It worked great for what it was. Now, how do I get the
same nice stereo spread and sharp imaging of the MS907,
but with my AT853's? I'm experimenting clipping them to shoulders, collar, hat, etc. both facing
forward, both facing out to the sides and forward, etc. and I can still get better imaging/spacial detail wih the Sony mic. Frequency response and just about every other quality is far superior with the AT's of course...
thanks for any ideas,
Chris