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Title: AT 4051s ?
Post by: Nick's Picks on November 13, 2007, 07:34:44 AM
I just scored a pair of these for $250.
I know they retail around twice that.  I've never heard them, but have liked the AT sound in the past.

comments ?
am I a sucker, or lucky?
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: rokpunk on November 13, 2007, 08:03:48 AM
they are middle of the line for AT. not bad mics at all, but not their flagship mics either.
pair for $250 sounds fair to me.
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: Nick's Picks on November 13, 2007, 08:25:34 AM
what is their flagship SD condenser ?
I thought this was it...modular caps..etc.
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: kgreener on November 13, 2007, 08:59:16 AM
what is their flagship SD condenser ?
I thought this was it...modular caps..etc.

I'm pretty sure you are correct Nick.  I had a pair of AT4051a and 4053a (hypers) and from what I know they are top of the line from AT.  I only sold them to go the active route.  Excellent mics imo, and I think you got a killer deal.

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:ZWGxqXjcLOEJ:emusician.com/mag/emusic_smokin_condensers/+at4051a+emusician&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us

edit: do your mics actually say AT4051 or AT4051a on them?  there are two editions out there...
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: GDfan on November 13, 2007, 09:20:24 AM
http://www.archive.org/details/2001-07-09.paf.at4051.montell.5598.sbeok.flacf

phil show with AT4051a

Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: Nick's Picks on November 13, 2007, 09:24:32 AM
i believe they are the older, original 4051.

maybe not modular?
no biggie.  I only run cards any way.
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: rokpunk on November 13, 2007, 09:44:13 AM
IIRC, the 4051 is not an interchangable capsule. The 4051a, however, is.
AT's flagship mic is the 4060....although, it is a large diaphram mic, not a small.
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: Nick's Picks on November 13, 2007, 09:45:31 AM
right, their multi-pattern LD.  nice mic.
as for SDs, though, this is their best. 
bummer on the non interchangeable..., I can't find any info on this vs the "a" revision on the web.

like I said, I only run cards any way.
these will be nice spares.
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: drewloo on November 13, 2007, 09:59:00 AM
yeah, Nick, looks like you got a very nice deal.  I often check ebay for 4041s/4051s looking for a deal.  Bummer you didn't get the 4051a's, but it's still a good deal IMO.  I was going to buy someone's 4051s here (Jnorman maybe??) a while back but the buyer decided to hold on to 'em.  Underrated mics IMO.
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: Nick's Picks on November 13, 2007, 10:45:50 AM
turns out..., this might be too good to be true after all.
seems like the same seller is also negotiating with Tim..who has all ready secured a MO for them.

looks like we's bein' plaid!
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: kgreener on November 13, 2007, 11:02:26 AM
whatever ends up happening i'm still about 99% sure caps are interchangeable no matter the version (i.e. 4051 or 4051a)

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.makers.marketplace/browse_thread/thread/fd3fdfba6bed7dd2/1c89b680b31ed5be?hl=en&lnk=st&q=at4051+capsules#1c89b680b31ed5be
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.audio.pro/browse_thread/thread/438ac4cf09beb414/662e6228156fc675?hl=en&lnk=st&q=at4051+capsules#662e6228156fc675

Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: jnorman34 on November 13, 2007, 11:06:10 AM
for what it is worth, i really like the 4051s.  i have owned pairs of schoeps cmc64s, DPA 4011s, akg c480s and c460s, km184s, and many others, and the 4051s are often my first choice for certain appplications in the studio.  i just recorded a new CD for a local pianist (performing on a 7'4" bosendorfer grand) with a piar of 4051s, and it is spectacular. 
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: Todd R on November 13, 2007, 12:07:27 PM
Well looks like someone got an excellent score, anyway!

And I agree these are AT's top of the line SD condensors, definitely not designed to be a middle of the road product for them.  From what I've heard of these, they are nice mics, underrated in our taping circles.

I ran their next step down, the AT4041's, for a year or so before switching to Neumann km184s.  I really liked the 4041s and made a lot of good tapes with them.  I always thought they should've been used a lot more in taping circles, esp as a lower cost nice mic (this especially in the day before all these cheaper China-made condensors we now have the choice of -- pelusos, studio projects, avantones, ADKs, etc.). 

From the few tapes I've heard, the 4051s have a similar sound to the 4041s, but nicer and a bit more refined.
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: Nick's Picks on November 13, 2007, 05:14:43 PM
fwiw...
Peluso's are not made in china.
just the metal housing.
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: bluewingolive on November 13, 2007, 05:26:44 PM
I primarily run 4051a. Paired with SD-MP2 or MiniMP.  Love 'em.  4053a in the holster too. 
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: Todd R on November 13, 2007, 06:26:43 PM
fwiw...
Peluso's are not made in china.
just the metal housing.

Gotcha.  Somehow I thought they were designed in the US, capsule made in the US, and assembled in China.
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: jhfinn on November 13, 2007, 06:50:58 PM
I ran a set of the AT4051as for a few years and sold them to a friend for $700 then bought a pair of gefell m300s.They are ATs top of the line SDC.The bodies are actually AT4900a and the caps are AT4051(card) AT4053(hyper) and AT4049(omnis).You should be able to find some 95>98 Panic done with these mics with various caps/pres.Very musical sounding mics IMO I enjoyed them.
regards,
Jim
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: Ryan Sims on November 13, 2007, 08:40:10 PM
I am a sucker for AT mics and I like the few tapes I've heard with these a lot. Helluva snag Nick!

Shameless pitch: Keep me in mind if the marginal utility on these runs out for you in the near future. ;D
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: spyder9 on November 13, 2007, 09:48:49 PM
$250 for a pair of At4051's is a bleepin' steal, IMO.  Possibly of this decade.  Audio Technica, for some stupid reason, .......and I mean that, ......gets absolutely no LOVE on this website.  They make great mics.  Lurve my AT3031's.  Very Schoepshish-sounding.  For a 1/10th of the price.   :P ;) 
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: OOK on November 13, 2007, 10:04:04 PM
$250 for a pair of At4051's is a bleepin' steal, IMO.  Possibly of this decade.  Audio Technica, for some stupid reason, .......and I mean that, ......gets absolutely no LOVE on this website.  They make great mics.  Lurve my AT3031's.  Very Schoepshish-sounding.  For a 1/10th of the price.   :P ;) 

I love the sound of spyders 3031's.  If you haven't heard them do your self a favor and tryem.  They are only 180 a peice...
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: F.O.Bean on November 13, 2007, 10:28:15 PM
My old buddy Chris Clark ran the 4051/4053's side by side to my 480's on Phish tour EVERYNIGHT, and his tapes were always consistently good :) Theyre no 480's IMO, but you def got an AMAZING deal Nick! Great mics and def overlooked in our circles....
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: stirinthesauce on November 13, 2007, 10:43:02 PM
$250 for a pair of At4051's is a bleepin' steal, IMO.  Possibly of this decade.  Audio Technica, for some stupid reason, .......and I mean that, ......gets absolutely no LOVE on this website.  They make great mics.  Lurve my AT3031's.  Very Schoepshish-sounding.  For a 1/10th of the price.   :P ;) 

plenty of love from me for my "swiss army knife of mics" at4050's.  i enjoy them thoroughly  ;D
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: bobbygeeWOW on November 14, 2007, 01:19:20 AM
Pretty good deal compared to this:

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php?t=156455

Deal of the century is still Eric's virtually free mega-gefell/mod-R4/V2/etc yardsale complete bail out :)
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: F.O.Bean on November 14, 2007, 02:40:16 AM
Pretty good deal compared to this:

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php?t=156455

Deal of the century is still Eric's virtually free mega-gefell/mod-R4/V2/etc yardsale complete bail out :)

agreed!

that gefell deal was CRAZY GOOD! its the only thing thats sold in the YS all summer/fall/winter too......
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: Javier Cinakowski on November 14, 2007, 07:28:49 AM
Have I mentioned that I like Audio Technica?
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: Nick's Picks on November 14, 2007, 07:36:35 AM
have I mentioned i passed on these because of the potential shaddy dealings?
and the realization that I still need to pay Peluso for the P stereo...as there is no way in hell i'm letting that go ?
:+)
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: jhirte on November 14, 2007, 02:37:10 PM
if you do score them for that price, that is a GREAT deal.
I ran 4051a's -> V3 -> P1 for a while (then moved for akg 460's). I dug the at's, had got some decent tapes (1 totally smokin' tape!) but I dig the akg sound more, which is why I ultimatly switched.

Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: bluelawn on November 14, 2007, 03:47:21 PM
januszak & i have been rockin' the 4041's since '01,
very under rated mics around here
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: SmokinJoe on November 16, 2007, 03:11:27 PM
and the realization that I still need to pay Peluso for the P stereo...as there is no way in hell i'm letting that go ?
:+)

Gentleman... mark your calendars...  ;D
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: kozakz on December 09, 2007, 10:40:03 AM
250 usd for a pair is an excellent deal. I bought mine new from ebay in July for 410 usd. I love the sound of these mics...

 
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: spyder9 on December 10, 2007, 12:57:43 PM
Here's a show I taped over the weekend:

AT4051s > Aerco > R09

http://www.archive.org/details/ddbb2007-12-08.spyder9.flac16
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: OOK on December 12, 2007, 05:52:05 PM
T+ sounds good....
Title: Re: AT 4051s ?
Post by: Nick's Picks on December 13, 2007, 08:23:12 AM
so i take it you went through w/the auction and got those mics Dan ?
good one.