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Title: bad first attempt with a dat
Post by: seekup40 on November 18, 2003, 11:00:37 PM
Taped my first show tonight with my D8, it was in a little ballroom type place, i knew i should have setup by the soundboard, but nobody was up front so i setup like 4 feet from the right stack and the tape sounds like i ran too close and my levels are a bit hot at times, oh well i guess you gotta start somewhere
Title: Re:bad first attempt with a dat
Post by: pfife on November 18, 2003, 11:23:08 PM
I always try to set up at the point of a hypothetical triangle - the same distance from the right and left speakers...  (which, if the building is accomodating, will most likely be where the board is...)

Better luck next time - I have many shows that sound like crap, were cut short, etc.  - just keep learning.

Peace.


Title: Re:bad first attempt with a dat
Post by: sexymexi on November 19, 2003, 12:21:36 AM
better luck next time..  i dont think there is anyone here, that can say they have never pulled a bad tape..  i'm sure everyones done it..  its just a mater of learning..  i'd +T ya if i could 12 hr waity..  peace..

matt
Title: Re:bad first attempt with a dat
Post by: Sean Gallemore on November 19, 2003, 01:38:53 AM
yeah, you won't hit it on the head with your first try, but the idea is to fuck up less and less as we gain more experience :D

what exactly does it sound like? clipping? spl distortion?
Title: Re:bad first attempt with a dat
Post by: sexymexi on November 19, 2003, 02:17:26 AM
my philosophy is "SIN BOLDLY" that way when you fuck up boldly you know, and you learn from your mistakes, and or others will learn as well..  peace man, +t's to all and to all a good tape...  night.

matt
Title: Re:bad first attempt with a dat
Post by: cpclark on November 19, 2003, 03:36:07 AM
my philosophy is every hour you put into taping you get that much back in experience and knowlegde, just keep rollin tape and you will get better every show
Title: Re:bad first attempt with a dat
Post by: Sean Gallemore on November 19, 2003, 03:46:55 AM
taping/hours = experience + knowledge

not sure about the units but I like this equation
Title: Re:bad first attempt with a dat
Post by: zhianosatch on November 19, 2003, 03:49:18 AM
wouldn't it be taping x hours?
Title: Re:bad first attempt with a dat
Post by: Sean Gallemore on November 19, 2003, 03:56:29 AM
i think I have the left half reciprocated, should be hours per taping experience

hours/# of taping experiences = knowledge + experience

this makes a lot more since to me, but maybe multiplying might be correct ??? someone check my math
Title: Re:bad first attempt with a dat
Post by: zhianosatch on November 19, 2003, 04:00:43 AM
no, i think that's right, my bad
Title: Re:bad first attempt with a dat
Post by: Sean Gallemore on November 19, 2003, 04:35:22 AM
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Title: Re:bad first attempt with a dat
Post by: seekup40 on November 19, 2003, 07:44:57 AM
when i convert for the hell of it, i can send someone a clip or something if interested in how it turned out

Hopefully things go better this friday as well, got another show
Title: Re:bad first attempt with a dat
Post by: Kindguy on November 19, 2003, 03:44:55 PM
live in learn. T+ hope the next pull comes out better!
Title: Re:bad first attempt with a dat
Post by: chuckcage on November 19, 2003, 05:16:19 PM
my philosophy is "SIN BOLDLY" that way when you fuck up boldly you know, and you learn from your mistakes, and or others will learn as well..

My first attempt with a DAT was when a guy working on a film left an M1 at my apartment.  I didn't even know what it was -- thought it was a walkman or something.  Anyway, he left it with me for about a year, so I looked it up and discovered it was a recorder.  Found tapes for it...  Ended up at my band's show with a vocal mic running into it.  Bad recording because the mic failed (totally failed) halfway through.

Second try was with two AKG 414BULS into a mixpad then into the M1.  Shoulda been fine, except one of my cables was jacked up, so I ended up with shit again.

Third try was with a cheap-o stereo mic (like $25) into M1 directly.  Got the levels wrong, clipped the whole time.

Fourth try -- got levels right, accidentally set M1 on 32k, sounded like a telephone.

Then the guy called me and took the M1 back.  Doh!

After that I got to try fucking up MD instead! <grin>

Chuck
Title: Re:bad first attempt with a dat
Post by: chuckcage on November 19, 2003, 05:17:57 PM
That previous post just got me to thinking about how cool it would have been to have known about a board like this back then.  Probably could have saved dozens of bad recordings to just be able to ask a few questions.

Of course there's nothing like learning from (bad) experience to help you remember...

Chuck
Title: Re:bad first attempt with a dat
Post by: InfiniteOhms on November 19, 2003, 05:37:03 PM
seekup40 ... just wondering, what is your rig?