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Gear / Technical Help => Recording Gear => Topic started by: SoulBoogieAlex on January 11, 2008, 12:39:56 AM
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I can make a pretty sweet deal for the Edirol with a local audio shop.
What are your experiences recording with it?
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for years i recorded with an MD and never tried anything else [so can't speak for DAT, MT, Marrantz, JB3, etc.], but my new Edirol is absolutely, 100% perfect... i love the unit and look forward to recording more shows with it... i say, go and pick it up... you won't regret it...
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Works well. No known (big) bugs.
Tape over the LED.
Small buttons on the side.
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Having used md deck, d100/m1 dat deck and now using an r-09 I'd say I'm happy with it. Convenient size and nice quality. It feels like an expensive piece of plastic if that makes sense. I hate the "hold" button which is small and hard to slide over.
Also, adjusting the levels during recording were much easier on a dat (the rec level wheel), but is harder on this. In the dark that is. No big trouble adjusting, but I have many times pressed the + instead of - and the other way around when adjusting the levels in the dark.
The display is pretty easy to read and there is a clip light that might come in handy.
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FWIW: I never adjust levels during a show, nor glance at the unit.
Just set, start sometime and forget until I am out again.
Starting the deck even in somewhat 'security' situations is doable, including the `hold thing which is indeed a bit small`or at least hard to handle.
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Thanks for the responses, very helpfull. I'll let you all know when I bought it and how I like it 8)
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I love mine. The only problems I've had are user errors. ;D
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No issues with mine. Flawless performance.
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I'm lovin' it
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What are your experiences recording with it?
I use one as a field-recorder with a Sound Devices MixPre...never had any problems...
recordings here (http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/usersViewSingle.php?id=29541)
(http://www.digifishmusic.com/public/images/hydrophone-fieldrecording6.jpg)
(http://www.digifishmusic.com/public/images/hydrophone-fieldrecording1.jpg)
digifish
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The Edirol definitely has a hiss to its internal mike recordings.
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The Edirol definitely has a hiss to its internal mike recordings.
Indeed. They are useless on anything but close-miced or quite loud sound sources. Quite strange really, when I connect $3 worth of Panasonic WM61-A capsules (http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,94446.0/all.html) to the mic-in there is dramatically less hiss...why they didn't use a set of these internally is anybodies guess?
digifish
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Never had any problems with mine, till the Line in jack broke. :(
Not sure if this is still a problem on them or not, but it's happened to a lot of people here.
Still debating what to replace it with. :hmmm:
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http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,98074.0.html
I started a thread on the concert review forum to share more experiences with the Edirol. I must admit that I barely hear a hiss from the internals.
I taped Steve Earl last night, came out pretty well 8)
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The Edirol definitely has a hiss to its internal mike recordings.
Indeed. They are useless on anything but close-miced or quite loud sound sources. Quite strange really, when I connect $3 worth of Panasonic WM61-A capsules (http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,94446.0/all.html) to the mic-in there is dramatically less hiss...why they didn't use a set of these internally is anybodies guess?
digifish
Chris Church's mod that replaces the stock internal mics with his omnis or cardioids taps into the 'mic-in' path and does not use the existing internal mic board leads. I asked him why (since that bypasses the existing switching and requires him to also add a switch to select between the replacement internals or the jack) and he stated that the existing internal mic path is noisier than the 'mic-in' jack path (not sure if it has additional gain applied or not).
I love mine. In fact, I bought a second one.
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I recently got the new Marantz PMD 620 ;). But I still love my R-09. Never, ever let me down. ;D
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Has anyone had the problem of a buzz when using the line-in? This only occurs when the unit is on mains power. As soon as I go back to battery power it stops.
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Has anyone had the problem of a buzz when using the line-in? This only occurs when the unit is on mains power. As soon as I go back to battery power it stops.
interesting... got a slight buzz on a soundboard recording i did on thursday... was using mains power... will look further into the matter... i hope this isn't true....
was so lucky actually... got the chance to kinda of mix the gig [never been engineer before - but have done 100's of gigs myself so know about sound] but i managed to get a awesome stereo recording with panning on the desk... best tape i ever pulled off the desk by far... 24bit/48kHz too...
anyhoo... let me know if you hear anything about the buzz or if you ever have the same trouble again.... very interesting topic...
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I've had my R09 for nearly a year now, and I love it. The only problems I've had are due to my own cack-handed-ness. For example, my tendency to take the damn thing out of my pocket every 5 minutes has been known to result in flicking the lowcut filter on. That's a pain - although I guess it would be pretty easy to fix, now that I think about it.
Nice piece of kit - I've been considering buying another.
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my tendency to take the damn thing out of my pocket every 5 minutes has been known to result in flicking the lowcut filter on. That's a pain - although I guess it would be pretty easy to fix, now that I think about it..
Nice piece of kit - I've been considering buying another.
I put a 1" square of gaffer tape over the switches on the back of both of mine. Works a charm.
I only wish I could sync the two with a USB cable (or 1/8" stereo cable like the new R-44).
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I'm pretty happy with my R-09. I've done about 40-50 shows with it. My only gripe is that the A2D lacks a bit of bass compared to my old PCM-M1 dat (or other A2Ds like the V3 or the 722). I've only had a couple problems in all those shows, mostly related to the older firmware I believe. I'll probably stick with it, but would like to see how it stacks against all the competitors coming out. I just saw today that Olympus released a competitor that looks pretty nice (the LS-10).
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my tendency to take the damn thing out of my pocket every 5 minutes has been known to result in flicking the lowcut filter on. That's a pain - although I guess it would be pretty easy to fix, now that I think about it..
Nice piece of kit - I've been considering buying another.
I put a 1" square of gaffer tape over the switches on the back of both of mine. Works a charm.
I only wish I could sync the two with a USB cable (or 1/8" stereo cable like the new R-44).
Cool. That's pretty much what I was thinking. Would I be able to get the tape off easily without gunking up the back of the R09, though?
T+ for the class idea, btw.
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my tendency to take the damn thing out of my pocket every 5 minutes has been known to result in flicking the lowcut filter on. That's a pain - although I guess it would be pretty easy to fix, now that I think about it..
Nice piece of kit - I've been considering buying another.
I put a 1" square of gaffer tape over the switches on the back of both of mine. Works a charm.
I only wish I could sync the two with a USB cable (or 1/8" stereo cable like the new R-44).
Cool. That's pretty much what I was thinking. Would I be able to get the tape off easily without gunking up the back of the R09, though?
T+ for the class idea, btw.
If you update to the latest firmware, there is a setting to disable the LED.
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...Cool. That's pretty much what I was thinking. Would I be able to get the tape off easily without gunking up the back of the R09, though?
Yep, just use a good grade of gaffer tape. It's designed not to leave gunk.
If you update to the latest firmware, there is a setting to disable the LED.
There is, but I don't use it because it turns off the peak light too. Instead, I use the recorder in the bodyglove case with the clear plastic window front and put another 1" square of gaffer tape on the window over the main control button. I can still operate the transport buttons (pushing record in the center requires more localized fingernail pressure vs. a fat finger) but it completely obscures the red recording light when the recorder is in the case.
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Has anyone had the problem of a buzz when using the line-in? This only occurs when the unit is on mains power. As soon as I go back to battery power it stops.
I just sort of assume you would get some buzz, so have never used my power adapter. All mains powered electronics gets some 50/60 Hz hum at some level somewhere.
R-09 + MixPre are all battery powered so I am happy.
I know this doesn't solve your problem. Can you post a sample?
digifish
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I just sort of assume you would get some buzz, so have never used my power adapter. All mains powered electronics gets some 50/60 Hz hum at some level somewhere.
I haven't noticed hum using the power adapter for playback, but just to be safe, I've always recorded using the batteries even when near an outlet for the same reasons as digifish.