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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: ts on January 15, 2008, 06:16:52 PM
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I'm not sure if these can these be bought as a matched pair/stereo kit? For example, the 3521 kit is a pair of 4021's. Is there a 3523 kit? Who has the best prices?
Thanks
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you can buy the stereo kit 3523...thats what I purchased when I got mine...good luck on your search...cant go wrong with DPA
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you can buy the stereo kit 3523...thats what I purchased when I got mine...good luck on your search...cant go wrong with DPA
I thought so, but where? Nobody lists them as far as I can see. Same price as a 3521 kit? Are they matched?
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you can buy the stereo kit 3523...thats what I purchased when I got mine...good luck on your search...cant go wrong with DPA
I thought so, but where? Nobody lists them as far as I can see. Same price as a 3521 kit? Are they matched?
Last I heard you could only get the stereo kit through DPA. Things may have changed since then but when I was looking it was just DPA.
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you can buy the stereo kit 3523...thats what I purchased when I got mine...good luck on your search...cant go wrong with DPA
I thought so, but where? Nobody lists them as far as I can see. Same price as a 3521 kit? Are they matched?
Last I heard you could only get the stereo kit through DPA. Things may have changed since then but when I was looking it was just DPA.
Yes, thats the way it's looking. With this brand/quality is having a matched pair that important. Do most folks have matched pairs? If I buy two from someone like B&H, I wonder how close the serial numbers will be.
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you can buy the stereo kit 3523...thats what I purchased when I got mine...good luck on your search...cant go wrong with DPA
I thought so, but where? Nobody lists them as far as I can see. Same price as a 3521 kit? Are they matched?
Last I heard you could only get the stereo kit through DPA. Things may have changed since then but when I was looking it was just DPA.
Yes, thats the way it's looking. With this brand/quality is having a matched pair that important. Do most folks have matched pairs? If I buy two from someone like B&H, I wonder how close the serial numbers will be.
I would fully expect non-matched pairs to be extremely close to one another sonically coming from DPA.
If I can suggest, try calling Full Compass and see what they'd do for you deal wise as well as trying to track down consecutive serial numbers for you. I've always had a you get whats on the shelf experiences with B&H. Not that that is a bad thing I just can't see some warehouse guy looking at serial numbers for a customer. Maybe though.
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you can buy the stereo kit 3523...thats what I purchased when I got mine...good luck on your search...cant go wrong with DPA
I thought so, but where? Nobody lists them as far as I can see. Same price as a 3521 kit? Are they matched?
Last I heard you could only get the stereo kit through DPA. Things may have changed since then but when I was looking it was just DPA.
Yes, thats the way it's looking. With this brand/quality is having a matched pair that important. Do most folks have matched pairs? If I buy two from someone like B&H, I wonder how close the serial numbers will be.
I would fully expect non-matched pairs to be extremely close to one another sonically coming from DPA.
If I can suggest, try calling Full Compass and see what they'd do for you deal wise as well as trying to track down consecutive serial numbers for you. I've always had a you get whats on the shelf experiences with B&H. Not that that is a bad thing I just can't see some warehouse guy looking at serial numbers for a customer. Maybe though.
Good point. I wonder how many people own matched pairs that didn't buy a stereo kit.
As far as B&H, they have the best advertised price per mic. I guess Full Compass would match price or possibly even be better by phone.
Anyway, I'm ready to spring for a pair of these, matched or not. I'll try calling DPA of N.A. first to see what they say.
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when spending this kind of money, I would require that the mics be factory matched, but that is just me, this kit would cost around $4000 I will bet
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When I was searching for mine, DPA Colorado told me that any dealer could provide the 3523 kit. He said if they played dumb to refer them to DPA Colorado & they would inform them.
At the time I was looking, DPA Colorado was still selling direct & this kit was ~$3,250 new, IIRC.
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I bought a set of 4011's in 2001 and they had consecutive serial numbers but were not matched and they were 1 to 1.5 db's different.I bought a matched set of 4023's in 2003 and they were def within .5 db of each other.In 2003 DPA charged $150.00 for matching. I'm sure its that or more now.I never botherd with the kit.It came with a slew of stuff I know I would never use.With the 4023's you can run them in all the schoeps kwon bars and run them in a vark bar as well. The best mics for the sweet spot imo.
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when spending this kind of money, I would require that the mics be factory matched, but that is just me, this kit would cost around $4000 I will bet
I know AKG doesn't even do "matching" anymore. The standards at the factory are such that it wasn't worth doing this anymore.
You may require it but it wouldn't surprise me if most of these high end companies just were not doing it anymore.
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It came with a slew of stuff I know I would never use.With the 4023's you can run them in all the schoeps kwon bars and run them in a vark bar as well.
Ever since I got the kwon bars, I've run them this way. I feel alot more secure running them this way instead of the CXO4000 mount. I would recommend buying the mics and paying for the matching over the kit if I were buying new.
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when spending this kind of money, I would require that the mics be factory matched, but that is just me, this kit would cost around $4000 I will bet
I know AKG doesn't even do "matching" anymore. The standards at the factory are such that it wasn't worth doing this anymore.
You may require it but it wouldn't surprise me if most of these high end companies just were not doing it anymore.
I was referring to spending a large amount of scratch on DPA's and requiring they be factory matched, I would not put AKG mics into the same category with DPA's
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yeah mine were matched picked them up from sonic sense when I got mine...they will work in all kwon bars. I will say that the scheops ortf bar is an extremely tight fit but it fits there as well if you dont want to use the dpa mount...once I moved to DPA I have never looked back.
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DPA ;D
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I got the 3506 kit (4006TL's plus gadgets) with matched sequential mics through Sweetwave. They were fast, easy to deal with and got me a pretty good price. If you have not yet bought your kit you could give them a call. They are just down the street from DPA-USA.
Cheers
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Here we go again!
DPA is hitting us with a price increase which goes into effect on Feb. 15, 2008. They have even increased the matching fee from $180.00 to $265.00!
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,97217.0.html#msg1294709
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damn declining value of the dollar!!!
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just bought a 3523 stereo kit for $2999 from Sweetwave.
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just bought a 3523 stereo kit for $2999 from Sweetwave.
That's a damn good price. Are they matched?
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yes, matched and like Moke said, comes with XY/ORTF mount, shockmount, windscreens, magnetic mounts, and gooseneck mounts! witch can come in handy. I'm so psyched to get the case full of goods on the 13th. I thought that the price was right.
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ya, they look sweet, almost $200 for the pair, but what the hey, I'm already in this far..
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the stereo kits are matched stereo pairs, in a kit box, w/ multiple extra accessories.
Correct, Moke. I was asking for clarification out of disbelief that he got such a great deal on them.
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So when deciding b/t the 4023 and the others w/ attached cable, what are the pros and cons for those that have used them a lot?
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So when deciding b/t the 4023 and the others w/ attached cable, what are the pros and cons for those that have used them a lot?
I have heard that the 4021 connection is the least durable of the three types.
Remember that the 4023 cable sticks out more and is slightly bigger than the 4022, this may or may not be important to you depending on how you are planning to mount your caps.
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The biggest pro for me is being able to stealth with 3 ft of cable instead of 15 ft. Without that feature, I would just run 4022s instead.
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well the 4021's have the smallish right angled cable, so they are very discreet, the big advantage of the 4023's is the lemo connectors between the cables and the caps, making break down and set up a snap since the caps can remain in the connectors/shockmounts for storage
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lynchie - Would you mind posting pics of the 4023 next to the 140 cap and cable? I'm curious which one sticks out more.
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From the specs the 4023 is a full inch longer than schoeps actives and nearly an inch longer than the 4022.
4023 -
Microphone length:
30 mm (1.18 in); 71 mm (2.8 in) (incl. connector)
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Microphone length:
35 mm (1.38 in); 52 mm (2 in) (incl. cable relief)
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Microphone length:
31mm (1.22 in)
schoeps mk21 + kc5 = 1.797"
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just bought a 3523 stereo kit for $2999 from Sweetwave.
Thats a great price. I got my 3523 kit from DPA. I guess I should have contacted a few retailers to check pricing. ???