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Title: Need VERY small umbrella - I'm thinking 6"
Post by: Scuba Jeremy on January 30, 2008, 12:48:23 AM: Hello!

I'm putting together a super-compact rig for overseas recording situations. We're talking Africa, Asia, South America, etc. It'll be SP-CMC-4s, Gorillapod tripod, R09 and PS2 in an Otterbox.

I'm looking for an umbrella for wet situations, but I really need a super tiny umbrella, something bigger than a parasol, but smaller than a standard umbrella. Six inches really is what I have in mind.

Is there anywhere to find such a thing?
Title: Re: Need VERY small umbrella - I'm thinking 6"
Post by: rowjimmytour on January 30, 2008, 01:02:06 AM: (http://www.stupid.com/Merchant2/graphics/products/umbrella-hat.jpg)
I remember as a kid my mom had a umbrella hat that folded up small and you might be able to use a clamp. Not sure where you could buy one but I think some one brought it back from singapore for her. I ran google and found some places if your interested.
http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS257&q=hat+umbrella&btnG=Google+Search
Peace
Title: Re: Need VERY small umbrella - I'm thinking 6"
Post by: John Willett on January 30, 2008, 06:34:30 AM: Quote from: Scuba Jeremy on January 30, 2008, 12:48:23 AM
Hello!

I'm putting together a super-compact rig for overseas recording situations. We're talking Africa, Asia, South America, etc. It'll be SP-CMC-4s, Gorillapod tripod, R09 and PS2 in an Otterbox.

I'm looking for an umbrella for wet situations, but I really need a super tiny umbrella, something bigger than a parasol, but smaller than a standard umbrella. Six inches really is what I have in mind.

Is there anywhere to find such a thing?

I would not use an umbrella at all to protect microphones as it will act like a drum and you will hear the rain beating down on it - it will sound horrible.

Instead look at the Rycote Duck (http://www.rycote.com/products/accessories/duck/) - it protects the mic. from rain, but is silent. The rain lands silently on the cover, goes throufg the foam and drops off silently.

Looks daft -- but works very well.

(http://www.rycote.com/assets/images/products/accessories/duck/duck_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Need VERY small umbrella - I'm thinking 6"
Post by: Kush on January 30, 2008, 08:54:36 AM: Quote
I would not use an umbrella at all to protect microphones as it will act like a drum and you will hear the rain beating down on it - it will sound horrible.

Isn't the trick to that, putting a towel over the umbrella and fastening with clothes-pins at the edges? That way, it will soften the pitter-patter effect of rain hitting the umbrella.
Title: Re: Need VERY small umbrella - I'm thinking 6"
Post by: rokpunk on January 30, 2008, 10:29:52 AM: (http://www.hawaiianluauparty.com/images/products/52med.jpg)

;D
Title: Re: Need VERY small umbrella - I'm thinking 6"
Post by: Javier Cinakowski on January 30, 2008, 12:30:51 PM: Protecting the SP-CMC-4 is easy.

FINGER COTS!

(http://images.allegrocentral.com/F0/C9/8ab281020bb66dff010bb67101444693-PRODUCT-MEDIUM_IMAGE.jpg)
Title: Re: Need VERY small umbrella - I'm thinking 6"
Post by: rowjimmytour on January 30, 2008, 03:20:34 PM: (http://www.undercovercondoms.com/condomphotos/tx_colors_l1.jpg)
...Two birds w/ one stone!!! ;D
Title: Re: Need VERY small umbrella - I'm thinking 6"
Post by: heyitsmejess on January 30, 2008, 03:35:56 PM: Quote from: rowjimmytour on January 30, 2008, 03:20:34 PM
(http://www.undercovercondoms.com/condomphotos/tx_colors_l1.jpg)
...Two birds w/ one stone!!! ;D

do those come in LD sizes?
Title: Re: Need VERY small umbrella - I'm thinking 6"
Post by: Belexes on January 30, 2008, 03:40:24 PM: Quote from: heyitsmejess on January 30, 2008, 03:35:56 PM
Quote from: rowjimmytour on January 30, 2008, 03:20:34 PM
(http://www.undercovercondoms.com/condomphotos/tx_colors_l1.jpg)
...Two birds w/ one stone!!! ;D

do those come in LD sizes?

(http://www.ripnroll.com/images/Magnum-warming.gif)
Title: Re: Need VERY small umbrella - I'm thinking 6"
Post by: taylordb on January 30, 2008, 05:51:20 PM: As far as umbrellas go, I remember seeing a small setup that fits on a set of golf clubs to keep them dry. Saw it at Dick's Sporting Goods. Can probably find them at any golf store.
Title: Re: Need VERY small umbrella - I'm thinking 6"
Post by: swillysampson on January 30, 2008, 06:36:11 PM: I usually can find really small umbrellas (8-12 inches) at my local dollar store. Hope that helps.

Peace,
-Dave.
Title: Re: Need VERY small umbrella - I'm thinking 6"
Post by: Javier Cinakowski on January 30, 2008, 07:26:22 PM: I use the golf umbrella. I bought one off of ebay and chopped the hanlde off. I mount it to the mic stand with the windtech mic clamp. Just remove the 5/8" threaded bolt and stick the umbrella on there... It is great for festivals, keeps the sun from belting your mics and keeps a scattered shower at bay. The finger cots/condoms work amazingly well for strong rain though... Just make sure the rubber is tight across the front of the capsule...
Title: Re: Need VERY small umbrella - I'm thinking 6"
Post by: digifish_music on January 30, 2008, 09:41:08 PM: Quote from: John Willett on January 30, 2008, 06:34:30 AM

Instead look at the Rycote Duck (http://www.rycote.com/products/accessories/duck/) - it protects the mic. from rain, but is silent. The rain lands silently on the cover, goes throufg the foam and drops off silently.

Looks daft -- but works very well.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/538328-REG/Rycote_214101_DUCK_RAINCOVER_F_WINDSHIELD.html

$135 finally a product from Rycote with a price that didn't make my eyes water...although...you are right, the image is hurting my eyes :)

Clipping some sort of nice wobbly-case foam (black) over a black umbrella would indeed do the same trick...and look sexy. You can even get some black dog-clips to run around the edge of the umbrella.

(http://casanova.spinweb.net/catalog/watersports/1641.jpg)

digifish
Title: Re: Need VERY small umbrella - I'm thinking 6"
Post by: Scuba Jeremy on January 30, 2008, 11:01:55 PM: +T to everyone, thanks! :D

I'll definitely follow up on a couple of these options. I'll keep the finger cot idea in mind, though I've always shied away from the rubber idea - always feared that would muffle the sound to much, but I'll grab a bunch from work and see what happens. Definitely digging the golf umbrella, didn't even think of that.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: Need VERY small umbrella - I'm thinking 6"
Post by: cmquinn on February 01, 2008, 05:56:45 PM: Quote from: Scuba Jeremy on January 30, 2008, 12:48:23 AM
Hello!

I'm putting together a super-compact rig for overseas recording situations. We're talking Africa, Asia, South America, etc. It'll be SP-CMC-4s, Gorillapod tripod, R09 and PS2 in an Otterbox.

I'm looking for an umbrella for wet situations, but I really need a super tiny umbrella, something bigger than a parasol, but smaller than a standard umbrella. Six inches really is what I have in mind.

Is there anywhere to find such a thing?

I bought a small umbrella at 99cent only store in california. It is a smallish umbrella and I am able to clamp it to my stand and it provides good protection. It is not much bigger than the one on the dummy head above. Price was right!
Title: Re: Need VERY small umbrella - I'm thinking 6"
Post by: spcyrfc on February 01, 2008, 06:18:09 PM: i'd love to see some photos of the travel rig when its all ready to go. want to put something like this together eventually.
good luck
Title: Re: Need VERY small umbrella - I'm thinking 6"
Post by: digifish_music on February 03, 2008, 07:10:03 AM: Quote from: Scuba Jeremy on January 30, 2008, 11:01:55 PM
+T to everyone, thanks! :D

I'll definitely follow up on a couple of these options. ...Definitely digging the golf umbrella, didn't even think of that.

Thanks again!

This one is cool it's bendy :)

(http://www.umbrellaman.co.uk/UserFiles/Image/caddycover/caddy-cover1.jpg)

http://www.umbrellaman.co.uk/page/caddy+cover.htm
Title: Re: Need VERY small umbrella - I'm thinking 6"
Post by: stevetoney on February 03, 2008, 12:25:32 PM: The golf club umbrella is DEF the way to go if you can find one. It's bigger than the 6 inches you're looking for...i'd guess about 15 inches or so. People used to use their regular size umbrellas to shelter their clubs when they were sitting in the back of the golf cart and it started raining. The problem is that the regular umbrella is way too big. This guy fits the top opening of the golf bag perfectly.