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Title: BitTorrent?
Post by: Rleeee on February 08, 2008, 04:13:32 PM

Would using an IP hiding service help keep your provider (Comcast, Verizon, etc.), from throttling you when downloading or uploading a BitTorrent?  If so, can anyone recommend some good and trusted ones?

Title: Re: BitTorrent?
Post by: boojum on February 08, 2008, 04:55:08 PM

I use uTorrent in its encrypted fashion so that it sends and receives only encrypted data.  I think this will keep you from getting throttled.

Title: Re: BitTorrent?
Post by: newplanet7 on February 09, 2008, 01:03:19 AM

Pretty sure Verizon doesn't throttle.
I know Comcast does but I have no trouble with them.

Title: Re: BitTorrent?
Post by: vanark on February 09, 2008, 10:41:54 AM

It depends on how your ISP is going to throttle you.  Comcast checks the headers in the packets so no matter where you are connecting, they will see what kind of traffic it is.  That is why encryption should help you with them.  Optimum Online throttles by shear transfer amounts, so no matter what kind of traffic, encrypted or not, you'll get throttled.  I didn't think Verizon throttled.

IP masking services will help hide your true identity to other peers in the torrent swarm, but probably not disguise your traffic from your ISP.

Title: Re: BitTorrent?
Post by: jerryfreak on February 10, 2008, 01:12:39 AM

i wouldnt rely on ip protection for legal reasons, tho it may help prevent throttling.

SBC DSL doesnt care  AT ALL if you max out your connection 24/7. fuck comcast!

Title: Re: BitTorrent?
Post by: newplanet7 on February 10, 2008, 09:54:24 PM

Quote from: vanark on February 09, 2008, 10:41:54 AM

It depends on how your ISP is going to throttle you.  Comcast checks the headers in the packets so no matter where you are connecting, they will see what kind of traffic it is.  That is why encryption should help you with them. 

Comcast uses sandvines that impersonate a conversation from a peer to a peer.
For example, I post a torrent and my ISP is legit like verizon.
A peers bittorrent makes a request to my pc via bittorrent. My client/pc sends the message back that
I am available and can transfer data. Basically allowing the connection of both pc's through bittorrent.

What Comcast does is employ Sandvine technology which targets the requests, acts as my computer
to respond to the request for data transfer, replying that I am not available to the other peer and if the peer has comcast and I don't it works in reverse.
The fcc is going to investigate comcasts activities.
Here's a few links.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071019/115242.shtml
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/09/business/media/09fcc.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
Supposedly there are a few patches/fixes to get around it.

But, once again I have to say, I have comcast and had this problem a few times and it never returned.
I seed all the time without interference now.