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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #60 on: April 25, 2019, 09:15:11 AM »
wow, I never considered the usb.

Does anyone think we might be able to get it to work with the mixpre6 via usb?

USB Audio is listed as one of the various inputs on the mixpre6 spec sheet.


Can you provide a link?


I do see it support 4 channels in on USB audio in when connected to a Windows Computer with downloadable ASIO drivers (MAC OS usually handles this natively) - it doesn't specifically say you can us the mixpre as a master device for Audio purposes


I went ahead and asked support if the mixpre can take a USB signal (such as from the USBPre2) - I will post response here once I get it.


FWIW - I am reading is that all USB Audio Class 2 devices support Asynchronous USB and that the Sound Device products are class 2.  To be able to transfer above 24/96 2 channel class 2 is required.


Exert from the mixpre DL page:


https://www.sounddevices.com/product/mixpre-6/#tab-content-downloads


"An ASIO[/size]®[/color][/size] [/color][/size]driver (v) for the MixPre Series by Ploytec is now available for download.[/color][/size]With USB Audio Class 1 devices — that is, Windows-based computers without an ASIO driver — the MixPre Series audio recorders are capable of sending two channels of audio (L, R) and receiving two channels of audio via USB to/from the computer.[/color]
[/size]This software driver adds ASIO support in Windows OS for the MixPre-6 and/or MixPre-3. With the ASIO driver installed, Windows-based computers become USB Audio Class 2 devices, which means the MixPre-6 can send eight channels (1-6, L, R) to the computer and receive four channels from the computer via USB, while the MixPre-3 can send five in and receive two out. The ASIO driver for the MixPre Series allows for low-latency operation and max sample rate for USB audio up to 96 kHz on Windows computers. This driver supports Windows 7 and later, both 32- and 64-bit versions."[/color]
 
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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #61 on: April 25, 2019, 09:23:08 AM »
As far as devices go that can take aes. i intend on using it on my old 744t . it takes aes in on all four channels and i already have an Audio root Upre mk 11 that i use aes in . This will
give me four channels of aes in . I was going to buy another Audio root Upre mk 11 . but it appears they are not making anymore of them. Plus if this can work with an Android thats
going to be another tool in the arsenal. All of these use a Hirose to power these boxes and deck so a distribution box for power is in the cards.

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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #62 on: April 25, 2019, 11:04:16 AM »
unless its asynchronous the usb signal will almost certainly be a compromise relative to spdif in terms of jitter


I would be very surprised if it is not an asynchronous usb signal.    I haven't seen a USB audio product in years that is not asynchronous and would think Sonosax of all companies would think of this design limitation.

they dont advertise it as such. its advertised as "USB 2.0" which doesnt tell us anything as it can be adaptive or asynchronous. Dont assume that just because they make great audio hardware, that they make great computer interfaces.


Well don't assume the opposite - Other usb devices on the market such as the SD MixPre and USBPre2 series don't advertise as supporting asynchronous USB either - should we assume it is unacceptable to use them as USB interfaces as well?
I never said it was unacceptable, I said it was a compromise in design, Which we see all the time with portable gear
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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #63 on: April 25, 2019, 11:07:38 AM »
I’m not sure if class two designs necessarily use asynchronous. I know that class ones certainly cannot. But it does not necessarily mean in class two USB is always asynchronous, It really comes down to whether the device has its own clock or not and utilizes it, again that’s my take but it seems like most of us are speculating
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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #64 on: April 25, 2019, 01:12:14 PM »
From SD about feeding the MixPre-3/6/10 a USB audio signal such as from the USBPre2 or M2D2:


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Thank you for contacting Sound Devices. If you are asking if the MixPre series can input audio via the USB-A or C connection from another USB audio device connection the answer is it does not support that feature. [/size]The USB-A on the MixPre-3 and MixPre-6 is for external controllers and keyboards and the MixPre-10T USB-A connection can also be used for thumbdrive data transfer. The only time audio can be input via USB-C is while the MixPre is being used as an audio interface with a PC or Mac computer, but not from another USB device connection.
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