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Schoeps parabolic at NAB 2019
« on: April 21, 2019, 03:08:19 AM »
this is featuring a CCM but i cant see how it wouldnt work with any of the other small active ends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDeD1NElIgk

https://www.gothamsound.com/product/parabolic-dish-set

the portable dish is made by a company called Telinga, but they dont sell them separately

http://www.telinga.com/products/dishes/foldable-v2-dish/

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Re: Schoeps parabolic at NAB 2019
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2019, 03:16:54 PM »
On Schoeps' own Web site, see https://schoeps.de/en/products/special-microphones/parabolic-dish/parabolic-dish-set.html (no, they don't sell the dish alone, but the set seems to be available without a microphone if you already have a suitable CCM) ... and see also their YouTube video about the companion plug-in equalizer, on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OUmAZXBmwE .

The quote used in the demonstrations means roughly, "Nature gave mankind one tongue but two ears, so that we can listen twice as much as we speak." Its attribution is disputed. I thought it was from Goethe, and some on-line sources agree. But I see that it's also attributed to the Stoic philosopher Epictetus as well as other ancient Greeks such as Zeno of Elea.

Now, one really must admire Epictetus and Zeno, but in their time German hadn't been invented yet. So I still go with Goethe.

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Re: Schoeps parabolic at NAB 2019
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2019, 05:54:19 PM »
First interference tubes, now parabolic dishes, my how times change!  Looks to be implemented well as would be expected, an that thankfully has not changed.

Akin to the stereo-ear/mono-tongue demonstration quote , I attribute "talking is a necessity, listening is an art" to Goethe.. but don't really knoweth. 
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Re: Schoeps parabolic at NAB 2019
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2019, 08:18:45 PM »
> First interference tubes, now parabolic dishes, my how times change!

Schoeps wasn't always a "monoculture". At first they developed a tape recorder--the second one ever to use AC bias, after the original AEG "Magnetophon". (I think they made maybe five of those and sold three; times were hard.) They also installed sound systems for movie theaters and meeting halls. Then they turned their attention to condenser microphones. But at some point in the early 1950s, apparently they also considered developing dynamic microphones, since one prototype model still survives.

Maybe about 20 years ago by now, they worked seriously on a large-diaphragm cardioid for studio vocal recording. I'm fairly sure that it was single-diaphragm. It, too, got to the "early prototype" stage but was then shelved. Much more recently, under the new leadership, they developed the V4 which covers the same territory in a much more Schoeps-like way. I only have one, so I've never tried it as a main microphone for stereo concert recording, but I suspect that it might be good in some of the ways that the cardioid setting of the MK 6 was so good.

Actually if you look on all the side alleyways of their Web site, you'll see that in the past 10+ years or so, Schoeps has catering a lot to surround recording. Partly this is because that's a specialty area that Dr. Wittek knows a lot about. But it's also because German TV is very technically advanced and competitive in this area, especially where sports events are concerned. The parabolic dish is in line with that market--it obviously has no application to high-quality concert recording.

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Re: Schoeps parabolic at NAB 2019
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2019, 12:33:14 AM »
"Nature gave mankind one tongue but two ears, so that we can listen twice as much as we speak."

thats what she said....
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Re: Schoeps parabolic at NAB 2019
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2019, 06:18:03 AM »
But it's also because German TV is very technically advanced and competitive in this area, especially where sports events are concerned.

It better be! Every household here in Germany has to pay 18 EUR per month to subsidize state television and radio stations. Now if just the quality of their programming would keep up with the high technical standards...
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Re: Schoeps parabolic at NAB 2019
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2019, 08:01:44 AM »
First interference tubes, now parabolic dishes, my how times change! 

Actually, I think the parabolic reflector came years before the first interference tube mic. came about.

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Re: Schoeps parabolic at NAB 2019
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2019, 09:03:37 AM »
First interference tubes, now parabolic dishes, my how times change! 

Actually, I think the parabolic reflector came years before the first interference tube mic. came about.

I took Gutbucket to be referring to Schoeps specifically...and at least somewhat in jest.
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Re: Schoeps parabolic at NAB 2019
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2019, 10:22:28 AM »
Yes, was referring to the addition of these items to Schoep's product line.

Historically, these interesting instances of each type come to mind:

Pre-radar WWII era large acoustic reflectors-


And big bundle-of-tubes-style interference designs ("machine-gun") from Western Electric (618A/E99098)-



And RCA (10006A)-




Also on page 17 of this 1962 catalog: http://thehistoryofrecording.com/Literature/RCA/RCA-Broadcast-Equipment-Catalog-1962-5th-Edition.pdf

Now back to present day Schoeps..

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Re: Schoeps parabolic at NAB 2019
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2019, 01:48:13 PM »
Anybody else find that RCA ad with shotgun mic lady hot as hell?
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