Become a Site Supporter and Never see Ads again!

Author Topic: High Winds Forcast  (Read 1882 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Josephine

  • Trade Count: (6)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • Posts: 5215
  • Gender: Female
High Winds Forcast
« on: April 30, 2008, 03:46:14 PM »
I'm heading out to a three-day festie this weekend.
Looking at the weather report, high winds might be an issue.
I was wondering, of my two caps - MK4's and MK41's - does one handle wind better than the other?
I'll be running either with screens, of course.

Schoeps MK4 / MK4v / MK41 > actives > NBox+ > R-09HR



~   On Dime   ~
~   My Recordings   ~
~   Live Music Archive   ~

Offline audBall

  • Trade Count: (37)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • Posts: 6482
  • Gender: Male
  • Feel brand new about it
Re: High Winds Forcast
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2008, 04:54:18 PM »
Your cards will be less susceptible to the wind than your MK41's. 

Warm up that thimble and get some dead rats goin'.   ;)


Have fun!
mg m20.21.23 ■ akg ck61.62.63 »  nbob■naiant
aercomp2 ■ v2∞3 ■ sx-m2d2
d100 ■ pmd661 ■ r44ocm ■ f3

Offline Josephine

  • Trade Count: (6)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • Posts: 5215
  • Gender: Female
Re: High Winds Forcast
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2008, 04:57:39 PM »
Then 4's it is.  I'd wanted to use them anyway.
I've got some great rats that DSJ made me . . . . I'm just not sure yet how much I can fit in a hat.
:)
Schoeps MK4 / MK4v / MK41 > actives > NBox+ > R-09HR



~   On Dime   ~
~   My Recordings   ~
~   Live Music Archive   ~

Offline T.J.

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 2474
  • Gender: Male
  • Always look on the Bright Side of Life
    • My shows taped on LMA
Re: High Winds Forcast
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2008, 05:06:20 PM »
Then 4's it is.  I'd wanted to use them anyway.
I've got some great rats that DSJ made me . . . . I'm just not sure yet how much I can fit in a hat.
:)

time to fashion a hat incorporating those dead rats!

good luck and have fun val!

Offline audBall

  • Trade Count: (37)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • Posts: 6482
  • Gender: Male
  • Feel brand new about it
Re: High Winds Forcast
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2008, 06:10:46 PM »
I vote for a Mickey Mouse hat!   ;D

Didn't realize you were going lowpro....I thought you were runnin' in the sky.  Having never used a hat, I would assume it would offer some help in itself. 
mg m20.21.23 ■ akg ck61.62.63 »  nbob■naiant
aercomp2 ■ v2∞3 ■ sx-m2d2
d100 ■ pmd661 ■ r44ocm ■ f3

Offline DSatz

  • Site Supporter
  • Trade Count: (35)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *
  • Posts: 3354
  • Gender: Male
Re: High Winds Forcast
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2008, 08:08:06 AM »
Josephine, there's a spectrum of directional patterns: omni - wide cardioid - cardioid - supercardioid - hypercardioid - figure-8 (see attached drawing which I made for one of the manufacturers); a microphone can be anywhere along this line, not only at the well-known "stopping points," and many microphones have different patterns at different frequencies for better or for worse. These patterns derive from two contrasting operating principles. Omni and figure-8 are the two extremes, and everything else in between is some mixture of those two.

The closer you get to the omni end of the scale, the more immunity you have from wind noise, handling noise and physical vibration, proximity effect, and "popping" due to consonants when you close-mike a vocalist or a person speaking. Conversely, the closer you get to the figure-8 end of the spectrum the more potential difficulty you can have with these things, though you get other benefits (e.g. omnis are sitting ducks for diffuse low-frequency environmental noise such as "room rumble" while figure-8s reject it to an astonishing degree).

Your so-called hypercardioids very likely are more like supercardioids in actual fact, but they're still somewhat closer to being figure-8s than cardioids are, and therefore somewhat more sensitive to wind noise, all other factors being equal. However, all other factors are not always equal, and the difference may be just 3 to 4 dB when you'd like it to be 20 dB.

So your windscreens (and the strength of the wind itself) will make more of a difference than the difference between cardioid and supercardioid will make a difference, if you can follow my syntax.

--best regards
« Last Edit: May 01, 2008, 08:14:00 AM by DSatz »
music > microphones > a recorder of some sort

Offline gmm6797

  • Trade Count: (10)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3591
  • Gender: Male
  • Schoeps MK4 > nBoxPlat > Sony A10/SDMixPre6/SD 722
    • Homepage
Re: High Winds Forcast
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2008, 10:41:14 AM »
FWIW, last summer I taped the counting crows @ a minor league baseball stadium and I managed to get wind noise that was coming from behind the mics.  I was set up ORTF with a pair of standard Shure wind screens probaby about 14'

I was running my MK4 mics

 

RSS | Mobile
Page created in 0.043 seconds with 31 queries.
© 2002-2024 Taperssection.com
Powered by SMF