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Intenal mics on H4n or Sound Core Stealth Cardiode
« on: August 06, 2009, 01:13:56 PM »
Hi Guys,

Have bought a H4n

What mics are the best to use, the internal on H4n OR the Sound Core Stealth Cardiode I also have

Any who have experience ?

All the best,

Olle

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Re: Intenal mics on H4n or Sound Core Stealth Cardiode
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2009, 07:49:12 AM »
Hi Olle (from Sweden?),

Why not run both, for a 4tr comparison?!
It would be a nice favor to the community here...

But the obvious advantage of the Core Sounds is less handling noise and easier placement (stealth and better stereo imaging).
And I would guess that the specs (frequency response, max SPL etc) are better for the Core's too:
http://www.core-sound.com/cardioid/3.php

I'd be curious if you did a 4tr test next time you tape. Post your results here!
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Re: Intenal mics on H4n or Sound Core Stealth Cardiode
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2009, 08:39:41 AM »
That would be great info. However AFAIK the H4n mics are Omni so its a bit apple to oranges

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Re: Intenal mics on H4n or Sound Core Stealth Cardiode
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2009, 10:29:51 AM »
Hi,

H4n are cardiods, thus the XY angle...
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Re: Intenal mics on H4n or Sound Core Stealth Cardiode
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2009, 01:34:16 PM »
.Please show where Samson says Cardioid Mic capsules ? The H2 is XY too but the capsules are definately Omni

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Re: Intenal mics on H4n or Sound Core Stealth Cardiode
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2009, 05:45:17 PM »
Please show where Samson says Cardioid Mic capsules?

Yeah, I was looking for specs on the internal mics too, but the official site is totally devoid of anything useful. No max SPL, no freq response, no S/N ratio, no pattern plots!  ::)
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Re: Intenal mics on H4n or Sound Core Stealth Cardiode
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2009, 05:51:02 PM »
Please show where Samson says Cardioid Mic capsules?

Yeah, I was looking for specs on the internal mics too, but the official site is totally devoid of anything useful. No max SPL, no freq response, no S/N ratio, no pattern plots!  ::)

Both online manuals (H4 and H4n) state the mics are unidirectional condenser mics. Thus the XY pattern. They are not omnidirectional.
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Re: Intenal mics on H4n or Sound Core Stealth Cardiode
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2009, 12:27:35 PM »
Thanks for your answers

I will try to do a 4tr next time

it will be a bluesfestival at a small venue ( 300 ppl )

Suggestions about how to rigg?

BR

Olle from Sweden  :)

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Re: Intenal mics on H4n or Sound Core Stealth Cardiode
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2009, 07:05:38 AM »
Hi! I was looking for some info on those internal mics. I haven't bought one of those units, but had a few questions about its' usefulness, considering I've got a lot more mileage out of a Microtrack and a pair of Church-Audio CA-11 cards than anyone would have had me believe. I'm confused by the specs in that manual for those built-in mics, though. Normally, I'm used to seeing something like "Frequency Response" or "20 - 20,000 Hz" or something like that. The only thing I see in the manual is "Gain +7dB _ +47dB". Ummmm.... I don't get what that is referring to, I guess...

Please show where Samson says Cardioid Mic capsules?

Yeah, I was looking for specs on the internal mics too, but the official site is totally devoid of anything useful. No max SPL, no freq response, no S/N ratio, no pattern plots!  ::)

Both online manuals (H4 and H4n) state the mics are unidirectional condenser mics. Thus the XY pattern. They are not omnidirectional.

Hey man, that common sense shit won't fly around here, we're from Portland, we're edgy & different or something  ???
she kept playing with the balls for around 2 years after i thought i had seen it all from them.

 

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