Topic: DPA 4022 Vs. 4023 please advise for low profile ( about lemo or not to lemo)

[bluntforcetrauma]

Hello Since the Lemo connection of the 4023 brings along with it a bit more length coming from the mic body.  Meaning the mic body plus where the lemo and cable connect too, appear to be longer THAN just the 4022 with the mic cable directly attached to the mic body.

The 4023 has that extra length from the mic body that the " lemo" connection mic cable can attach.

One of my questions is that does that part that the Lemo connection of the mic cable comes out of the mic body is stiffer and might make low profile a bit difficult due to the " stiffness" of where the mic cable attaches to the mic body?

So where the mic and cable attach via the lemo connector does that present a lesser flexible cable at the point where the mic and cable begin to bend.

The 4022 with the rear cable attached is flexible and during low profile is able to bend fine since it " appears" more flexible.

Does the 4023 and the way the cable attaches to the body of the mic present low profile problems due to a possibility of less flexibility at the mic body lemo attachment area, so the cable does not " lay" right during recording?

My english not so good i went to public school.

please advise I would really appreciate it, thanks in advance

[Lil Kim Jong-Il]

I prefer the lemo connector of the 4023s for several reasons.

When it's necessary to setup quickly, it is easier to carry the capsules in their mount and then pull the cables ends from their storage location.  If you need to route cables through fabric, the lemo can pass though a smaller opening than the XLR or the capsule.  Cables inevitably get tangled in the field during a difficult set-up; it's easier to untangle if you can detach the cables and leave the capsules in the mount.  At some point we all need to get away from a situation and it's easier to save your capsules if you can detach them and sacrifice the cables.

The connector on the back of the 4023 capsule is very sturdy and makes a nice fit for the delrin rod mounts.  It does not make the cable more stiff but it does extend the non-flexible part of the assembly.  Past the lemo the cable is supple. I have never found the size or stiffness of the lemo connection to present a problem for the mounting options that I use.  And although it is a bit longer than something like the AKxx+LC3 or MKx+KC, it is a much easier carry and set-up compared to the cable being fixed to capsule at the mount.

I have seen the 4021s but not the 4022s so I can't comment on how robust the cable exit is on that one.  If I was going to get one of the fixed cable designs for use in various low profile mounts, I would be more interested in the side exit of the 4021s.   

[scb]

Hello Since the Lemo connection of the 4023 brings along with it a bit more length coming from the mic body.  Meaning the mic body plus where the lemo and cable connect too, appear to be longer THAN just the 4022 with the mic cable directly attached to the mic body.

you'll never notice any difference in length in reality. 

[hi and lo]

I believe there are several 402x users on this board that started with 21s or 22s and had cable issues from frequent stealthing. They developed a short where the cable enters the microphone housing. Luckily DPA has good repair facilities in the us and europe, but it's not a cheap fix.

They switched to 4023s to avoid this problem. The lemo is significantly more durable for this application.

[bluntforcetrauma]

My new DPA 4023 just came with 3 m cable plus extra 1 m cable for each mic.

brand new from Denmark through DPA in colorado.

Now i have dpa 4022 and 4023 kinda over kill but now hopefully can get 3 rigs to a show with video.

[Lil Kim Jong-Il]

kinda over kill

there is no such thing 

congratulations.  how do you like the lemos?

[acidjack]

I have seen the 4021s but not the 4022s so I can't comment on how robust the cable exit is on that one.  If I was going to get one of the fixed cable designs for use in various low profile mounts, I would be more interested in the side exit of the 4021s.

I think this is probably right.  I don't stealth with mine all that much, and frankly would probably be better off with 4023s given that I usually run open.  But if I were mostly stealthing, the 4021 seem like the way to go.  Unless you're not very careful with them, I don't think you should have a problem with the cable exit.  My pair were built in the 90s and I'm the second owner, and I run them quite regularly, and they have never had an issue.  Of course, I always keep them in their case when not in use, and my particular mounting method for low profile work doesn't crush or severely bend the cables.

On a related note, it now appears that all of the 402x mounts are no longer for sale at retail 

[bluntforcetrauma]

kinda over kill

there is no such thing 

congratulations.  how do you like the lemos?

thank you, i will be putting them to some work here at the house to see how they respond to some db's 

[scb]

On a related note, it now appears that all of the 402x mounts are no longer for sale at retail 

huh?

[bluntforcetrauma]

On a related note, it now appears that all of the 402x mounts are no longer for sale at retail 

huh?

yeah, the 40xx are being phased out, so what ever is in stock will be sold and of course if ever needs work on will be honored.  I called the U.S rep here in Colorado and he was able to order me a pair of dpa 4023 from Denmark then he also made 2 custom cables 1 m to go along with the 3 m cables.