Topic: Schoeps MK5 - Can you run one Card & one Omni?

[Datfly]

Can it be done? Has anyone here tried it? Results?

I will be running my MK5's for the first time this Sunday for Yes. I have 3rd row from the stage
so it is not the best taping spot unless I am near a stack so I thought one of each if possible.

[acidjack]

Physically, of course you can.  SHOULD you?  I'd think not, but you could try it I guess... just pointing the card forward and using the omni for "ambiance".  I'd make sure they were coincident so you don't get any weird phasing or other issues beyond the weird issues that will already result from doing this

[noahbickart]

if you add an mk6 or mk8, you can record the Both Card and Omni as the separate M signals, and devise the world perfect sub card for the occasion. Otherwise I think it isn't a very useful idea.

[Craig T]

I can't think of any useful reason to do this for 2-ch stereo.  You might get lucky being "close to the edge" (pun intended) - many PA systems have speakers filling in the front center section since it is typically a dead spot for a hanging PA array.  Flip a coin - equal chances either would prove a better option.

[F.O.Bean]

Yeah I wouldn't do it either. My buddy and I at Phish Hampton 98 accidentally ran one card and one omni and it sounded like dog doodoo

[JasonR]

Schoeps cards sound surprisingly good up close.  I'm guessing this is a  job, so that's definitely what I'd run.

[perks]

Trade that 3rd row seat to some lucky superfan sitting in row 15. Then run those MK5's in the cardioid setting ORTF.

[schoepsnbox]

Trade that 3rd row seat to some lucky superfan sitting in row 15. Then run those MK5's in the cardioid setting ORTF.

What he sad

[Marshall7]

Yeah I wouldn't do it either. My buddy and I at Phish Hampton 98 accidentally ran one card and one omni and it sounded like dog doodoo

Of course it WAS Phish... 

[DSatz]

If you have two cardioids, two omnis and a four-channel recorder, you can pair each cardioid with an omni (mounting the omni directly above or beneath the cardioid) and record all four signals. Then in playback you can mix each channel in any proportion of cardioid to omni that you like. It's like being able to choose a microphone pattern anywhere on the spectrum from omni to cardioid, after the recording is done.

In Germany an omni/cardioid combination like that is known as a "Straus-Paket". In some ways this technique was a precursor to Schoeps' development of the MK 21 wide cardioid capsule.

--best regards

[F.O.Bean]

Trade that 3rd row seat to some lucky superfan sitting in row 15. Then run those MK5's in the cardioid setting ORTF.

What he sad