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Re: Movo WST50 Ballistic Nylon Windscreens - back in stock!
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2022, 11:14:21 AM »

[snip]..gusts of over 40+ mph.
John was singing into an SM58 and there was considerable wind rumble in his vocal mic. After the intermission he suggested to the house sound guy that they put a wind sock on the vocal mic.

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Re: Movo WST50 Ballistic Nylon Windscreens - back in stock!
« Reply #31 on: December 24, 2022, 06:17:09 PM »
I use MK4V's.  I find the side-address diaphragms to be more susceptible to wind. I have the WST50 and BAS but can't leave dead air space at the end with the side-address.  Other than a Crown Royal bag and some gaff tape, what wind protection options are best for the V's?   

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Re: Movo WST50 Ballistic Nylon Windscreens - back in stock!
« Reply #32 on: December 25, 2022, 09:48:57 AM »
I use MK4V's.  I find the side-address diaphragms to be more susceptible to wind. I have the WST50 and BAS but can't leave dead air space at the end with the side-address.  Other than a Crown Royal bag and some gaff tape, what wind protection options are best for the V's?

I would recommend the Movo WST80 if the lack of dead air space at the end of the side-address has proven to be an issue.  I have MK4V's & MK41V's.  I also have Movo WST50 & WST80.

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Re: Movo WST50 Ballistic Nylon Windscreens - back in stock!
« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2022, 10:02:25 AM »
There is more internal foam toward the sides than at the front end of the Movos, which is why leaving some space at the end by not inserting the microphone all the way is good practice for and end-address microphone.  Not sure if that will effect a side-address microphone or by how much, but it will be safest to leave some space at the end in that case as well.  Aren't the Vs a bit longer than the end address capsules? The WST80 is the currently-available next size up from WST50 and likely your best bet, but you may be able to get away with a fully inserted side address capsule into WST50.

Dactylus, have the WST50's worked well with your V's?

Last recording outing I crammed a side-address Naiant X8 fig-8 + miniature DPA 4098 mid/Side pair into a WST50, but it was not really long enough.  With the mid/side pair capsules correctly aligned, the rubber cuff at the back of the Movo extended a bit past the side-address openings of the fig-8, so I ended up rigging up a little wire thing to put tension on the cuff and pull back either side just enough to make sure there was no indirect occlusion out to either side.  That wouldn't be necessary with WST80, but I was trying for minimal size and had WST50 in the other mic positions.  Worked well in that regard, however there wasn't enough wind to really test the effectiveness of the wind-screening.
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Re: Movo WST50 Ballistic Nylon Windscreens - back in stock!
« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2022, 10:10:18 AM »
Thanks guys!  The V's seem to fit fine in the WST50's.  I think I'm gonna try the furry WS-G60's.  They're for mics up to 3.1" long the MK4V's are 2" including the KCY.  Won't get to test them for awhile
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Re: Movo WST50 Ballistic Nylon Windscreens - back in stock!
« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2022, 11:21:30 AM »
Should fit nicely.  Your BAS Should work fine too, except being somewhat larger and the exposed foam more susceptible to getting beat up over time.  That's my baseline against which I'm now comparing the Movos.  BAS works well and is well known and understood in taperdom, however I only recently fully realized the extent to which the black foam elastic part around the microphone body in back presents a wind-susceptibility weak point.  The rubber cuff of the Movos is likely to seal better in that regard.
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Re: Movo WST50 Ballistic Nylon Windscreens - back in stock!
« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2025, 03:27:20 PM »
Anyone know of a dead rat that will fit over the WST50?

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Re: Movo WST50 Ballistic Nylon Windscreens - back in stock!
« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2025, 06:48:18 PM »
Anyone know of a dead rat that will fit over the WST50?

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Re: Movo WST50 Ballistic Nylon Windscreens - back in stock!
« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2025, 10:51:32 PM »
Anyone know of a dead rat that will fit over the WST50?

I've recorded in the Midwest with these when the gusts were bending trees (easily over 30 mph) and never had wind noise.

Where are you recording that you would need that much protection? On the beach? Mountaintop?
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Re: Movo WST50 Ballistic Nylon Windscreens - back in stock!
« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2025, 03:58:15 PM »
Anyone know of a dead rat that will fit over the WST50?

I've recorded in the Midwest with these when the gusts were bending trees (easily over 30 mph) and never had wind noise.

Where are you recording that you would need that much protection? On the beach? Mountaintop?

Movos are quite good at reducing wind noise, but not infallible.  First check that its working as well as it should. Check that the flexible rubber cuff-seal to the microphone body is tight and lot letting any air leak through.  A leak in that area will prevent any windscreen from working well.  Secondly, be careful not to insert the mic all the way as far as it will go into the Movo.  Instead leave an bit of airspace inside between the end of the mic and the front of the windscreen.  Addressing those things may eliminate the wind noise without needing a furry cover. They've improved wind performance for me.

As you are probably aware, the closer the directional pattern of the microphone is to the fig-8 end of the polar-pattern spectrum and the farther it is from omni, the more susceptible to wind noise it will be.  Even after doing the things mentioned above I've gotten some wind noise in supercards, shotgun mics and fig-8's when recording outdoors in gusty condition.   So if it makes sense, you might switch to a more open pickup pattern when it gets especially windy. 

Because both of the mic elements of the stereo shotgun I use are wind susceptible due to their patterns, I have a few windscreen options for that microphone.  I typically use a standard Movo same as WT50 only longer. Rather than make a furry cover to go over that, I picked up a second fur-covered windscreen to use in especially windy conditions.  The furry one looks like a Movo with the same rubber cuff and interior foam, but is actually some other brand.  I mention that because if the tips about use are not enough, switching to a dedicated furry Movo when needed may be a better answer than throwing furry covers on your existing Movo pair.

When things have gotten really windy, I've pulled out some old handmade furry covers that someone on the board made years ago to fit big ass Shures and used those on the smaller WT50s that are also used in the rig. Worked.  I've similarly used a Rycote BBG furry cover, which has much better fur, better construction and features a cinch string opening that makes it easy to snuggly secure around the MT50.  That thing works great, but isn't cheap. Fortunately I already had it on hand and repurposed it for this.

Hope that helps.

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