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So...tell us all what you think of the comp - what is your preference, guess on sources?

I prefer A tracks and think they're the DPAs
0 (0%)
I prefer A tracks and think they're the Schoeps
0 (0%)
I prefer B tracks think they're the DPAs
2 (16.7%)
I prefer B tracks think they're the Schoeps
3 (25%)
They both sound damn fine, I can't tell the difference!
1 (8.3%)
AK6s RUL3 Y0UR FAC3!!
6 (50%)

Total Members Voted: 12

Author Topic: COMP: Schoeps MK4 > SX-M2/LS2 v. DPA 4022 > SX-M2  (Read 2415 times)

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Offline Brian Skalinder

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COMP: Schoeps MK4 > SX-M2/LS2 v. DPA 4022 > SX-M2
« on: February 02, 2005, 01:14:38 PM »
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Oh, yeah, if you don't wanna download the whole thing, you can use BitTornado to d/l just a couple tracks.

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Schoeps MK4 v. DPA 4022 COMP

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FAR from a perfect comp - different seats (though right next to each other), slightly different mic configs (DINA v. ORTF), slightly different recording levels, slightly different preamps (SX-M2 v. SX-M2/LS2), etc.  BUT, still oughta give an idea of the differences between these two setups.  Thanks to Josh for the DPA source!

If you'd like to know which tracks map to which source, post or drop me a PM with:

[1] which tracks you prefer (A or B)
[2] why
[3] and to which source (1 or 2) you believe they map

Or, if you don't care to provide the above info, that's fine, too.

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SOURCE 1
Schoeps MK4 (DINA, hat) > KCY 250/2 Ig > Sonosax SX-M2/LS2 > Sony D100
Row Q,  Seat 19 (4 seats RoC)

SOURCE 2
DPA 4022 (ORTF, hat) > Sonosax SX-M2 > Sony M1
Row Q,  Seat 20 (5 seats RoC)

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Sweet Harmony Traveling Revue
2004-08-25
Cleveland, OH - Tower City Amphitheater

Emmylou Harris - guitar, vocals
Patty Griffin  - guitar, vocals
Buddy Miller   - guitar, bass, vocals
Gillian Welch  - guitar, banjo, bass, vocals
David Rawlings - guitar, bass, vocals
+  various members of Emmylou Harris and Patty Griffin's bands

A TRACKS

shtr2004-08-25t01-A  |  O Sister
shtr2004-08-25t02-A  |  Deal
shtr2004-08-25t03-A  |  I Want To Sing That Rock & Roll
shtr2004-08-25t04-A  |  Flaming Red
shtr2004-08-25t05-A  |  The Weight

B TRACKS

shtr2004-08-25t01-B  |  O Sister
shtr2004-08-25t02-B  |  Deal
shtr2004-08-25t03-B  |  I Want To Sing That Rock & Roll
shtr2004-08-25t04-B  |  Flaming Red
shtr2004-08-25t05-B  |  The Weight
« Last Edit: February 02, 2005, 01:22:08 PM by Brian Skalinder »
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Re: COMP: Schoeps MK4 > SX-M2/LS2 v. DPA 4022 > SX-M2
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2005, 01:52:26 PM »
Same ultra cool sylish kangol hat  :P

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Re: COMP: Schoeps MK4 > SX-M2/LS2 v. DPA 4022 > SX-M2
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2005, 02:37:39 PM »
so if we some schoeps up for sale tomorrow we'll know how the comp went :P
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Re: COMP: Schoeps MK4 > SX-M2/LS2 v. DPA 4022 > SX-M2
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2005, 02:39:14 PM »
so if we some schoeps up for sale tomorrow we'll know how the comp went :P

I prefer the DPA source in this instance, but for most stealth recording - where the environment isn't nearly as friendly as this one - I prefer the ability to run the MK41s.  No chance I'm giving 'em up!   8)
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Re: COMP: Schoeps MK4 > SX-M2/LS2 v. DPA 4022 > SX-M2
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2005, 02:43:46 PM »
From my cold dead hands!

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Re: COMP: Schoeps MK4 > SX-M2/LS2 v. DPA 4022 > SX-M2
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2005, 04:01:24 PM »

how much of a factor is the type of music in a comparison like this?  I'm curious if dpa's are better with certain types of music over other mics, or vice-versa.  I know that I've read that the results using dpa's have a lot to due with environment, but not much on what types of music they are more suited for...



I would say the type of music is not a factor, just the acoustic environment. DPA's are in general very transparent so your tape will sound like what the show sounded like at the spot where your mics were at. So if you are at a crappy sounding place you will hear just how bad it was on your tape. Or if it sounds great your tape will be smokin', regardless of what type of sounds/music you were recording.  Just my 2 cents.

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Re: COMP: Schoeps MK4 > SX-M2/LS2 v. DPA 4022 > SX-M2
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2005, 04:31:01 PM »
any idea if that song o sister is the same as the dylan tune from Desire?

The same.
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Re: COMP: Schoeps MK4 > SX-M2/LS2 v. DPA 4022 > SX-M2
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2005, 08:33:37 PM »
Nice, +T Brian. Both these are on my shortlist for my next set of mics, so I'm very interested in hearing this comparison.

Having said that, I've heard many smoking recordings made with each... I suspect whatever I end up choosing, I won't be disappointed :D

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Re: COMP: Schoeps MK4 > SX-M2/LS2 v. DPA 4022 > SX-M2
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2005, 02:00:17 PM »
Finally got a chance to really listen and compare the two.
I think I preferred Source B ~ but, boy, is it a close call.  They both sound fantastic.
Trust me, I'd be estactic to pull either !!
(Can someone PM me the source info?  Thanks.)
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