Topic: R-1 ticking while recording and on recording!?

[petal]

I just got me one of these and the first 3 recordings still sounds fine, but every single recording since the third one has been with a high frequency ticking which is also heart on the recording it self, and not only during playback on the device itself but also in my waveeditor.
This can't be right - Has anyone else experienced this and does anyone have a solution for this problem?

Cheers!
Thomas

[pgoelz]

never seen anything like that myself, maybe you had one of the effects enabled???


boogie

Metronome?

Paul

[d5]

are you using compact flash or a micro drive?

[petal]

Thanks for replying.

No it's not the metronome - I have checked if it was that. It sounds more like the recorder is picking up some kind of constant repeating noise or electrical biproduct with a constant rythm.

I'm using a compact flash 2 GB Kingston Pro card.

Cheers!
Thomas

[zowie]

Clock leaking into analogue stage?

[petal]

I think I might have narroved it down a bit.

The timer leaking into the analogue stage sounds like an explanation, but the weird thing is that when I changed the flash card back to the one that it R1 came with, the ticking almost dissapeared completely, it's still there, but now you can live with it. So my theory is that this problem is somehow related to the flash card. The memory card I've used where the ticking is very loud is a:

Kingston 2 GB Elite Pro 50x

Does anyone know anything about why this card should be a problem?

Cheers!
Thomas

[hyperplane]

perhaps a stupid question, but which firmware version is currently on your R-1?

reason being, at the "Knowledge Base" at Edirol's site, it says that the latest firmware version (1.03) is supposed to "fix all known bugs" related to "glitches, noise, errors or other problems not discussed by the FAQ database."

just a thought.

also, if you can borrow a different brand CF card from someone you know, it's probably worth trying it out to see if there's any difference.

[petal]

I believe it had version 1.3, but good suggestion nevertheless. I can't check it though, since I went to the shop and had it switched for a microtrack, which doesn't seem to have the mentioned problem what ever it was.

Thanks for your help!
Thomas

[pfife]

are you just deleting files, or formatting the card?

[petal]

I didn't even get to work that much with the device that deletion or an ekstra format of the card waas necesary, I simply took a decision and made the switch to a Microtrack, which has a better userdesign and size than the R1. The R1 is mobile yes, but when you put in cables you can't have it in a pocket anymore. That and then the clicking made me take a quick decision to buy the Microtrack. Which has performed without any problems untill now (after a firmwareupdate).

Thanks for the interest and help!
Cheers!
Thomas

[mcq]

The R-1 internal mikes do record the noises from compact-flash cards... and some cards are noisier than the others. The Kingston 2 Go noise is obvious when recording with high gain, but the Roland 64 Mo card also make noises when writing data (though it's quieter than the Kingston one).
Check this:
Go to a silent room, put both the record level and headphones level at maximum (be careful of the Larsen if you're using open-structure headphones!! don't damage your ears!), no line in or external mikes plugged, and launch a record: you'll hear that the ticking is clearly audible when data is written on the card, but not when the recorder is paused. Using different CF cards produce different noises, but I've never met a perfectly silent one yet.
So... I solved this problem by using external microphones. And I'll soon get a good external preamp, because the internal one is far from fantastic (and I need phantom power).
The R-1 is a nice, convenient, small and very useful device, though! Just bypass its preamp and avoid the internal mikes if you want the cleanest recordings ;-)

[BassPlaya]

You must have a defective unit.  I've taken my R-1 to a silent room and put the device in a covered styrofoam box and tuned the input gain all the way up with the external microphones.  The only noise that was apparent for the resulting wave was the sound of the radiators in the room.  I took this recording and brought it into Adobe Audition the waveform was pretty much totally flat and then I took a 1 minute section of it and amplified it to reveal white noise and the sound of a plane that apparently was flying overhead at the time the recording was running.  I didn't hear any compact flash noises, ticks or other sounds unless the constant white noise is what your talking about.

[mcq]

You must have a defective unit.  I've taken my R-1 to a silent room and put the device in a covered styrofoam box and tuned the input gain all the way up with the external microphones.  The only noise that was apparent for the resulting wave was the sound of the radiators in the room.  I took this recording and brought it into Adobe Audition the waveform was pretty much totally flat and then I took a 1 minute section of it and amplified it to reveal white noise and the sound of a plane that apparently was flying overhead at the time the recording was running.  I didn't hear any compact flash noises, ticks or other sounds unless the constant white noise is what your talking about.

Thank you for the report! Maybe my unit is defective, indeed. Well, I won't use it without a external pre anyway, but I'll have a talk with Edirol to know more about this.
And thanks to everybody making those forums so useful