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Shows longer than 80mins > MD
« on: December 07, 2005, 01:26:06 AM »
If you are going to be recording a show that will most likely be longer than 80mins (NIN) on a standard MD deck, whats the best option for recording? (Using a set of Core sound binaurals if that matters)

1. Mono mode
2. Compression modes ( LP2, LP4)
3. SP, with risk of disc flip (possible flip on encore)

Thanks.

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Re: Shows longer than 80mins > MD
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2005, 01:36:29 AM »
If you are going to be recording a show that will most likely be longer than 80mins (NIN) on a standard MD deck, whats the best option for recording? (Using a set of Core sound binaurals if that matters)

1. Mono mode
2. Compression modes ( LP2, LP4)
3. SP, with risk of disc flip (possible flip on encore)

Thanks.

I know this doesn't help you much, but with HiMD you can get 94mins uncompressed or 7h30 compressed (HiSP).  I usually run uncompressed for open and compressed for stealth.  I would use LP2 if I were using the old MD.  LP2 is something like MP3 @ 128, probably a little better, and that is probably OK for a quick stealth job...

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Re: Shows longer than 80mins > MD
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2005, 01:52:10 AM »
No doubt...#3.

I don't picture NIN rolling from one song into another. When I used MD I could switch discs in about 10 seconds.
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Re: Shows longer than 80mins > MD
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2005, 02:04:51 AM »
How would you switch disc's in 10seconds with TOC write? seems to take more than that, something im missing?

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Re: Shows longer than 80mins > MD
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2005, 03:14:55 AM »
Everything in lower fidelity vs. higher fidelity with a piece missing.   I'd go with LP2.   It does take more than 10 sec to flip discs.

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Re: Shows longer than 80mins > MD
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2005, 03:33:45 AM »
Everything in lower fidelity vs. higher fidelity with a piece missing.   I'd go with LP2.   It does take more than 10 sec to flip discs.

I have, only for the past year, been using LP2 rather than SP and there hasn't been much noticeable downgrade in quality at all to my ears.
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Re: Shows longer than 80mins > MD
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2005, 10:32:09 AM »
what about half the show in SP, then switching to LP2. Only problem is i think that it still has to write TOC, and therfore same problem as switching discs.

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Re: Shows longer than 80mins > MD
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2005, 03:39:44 PM »
I do the disc change routine. Watch the time, when a good break comes anytime after say 50 minutes (or maybe even earlier) change then. I usually watch for one of the musicians to look to be changing instruments, the guitarist usually. If he's getting set to change, there will usually be a few minutes when they check the tuning. Or, if there's a gear breakdown problem, etc. I've only had this not work just a couple of times.


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Re: Shows longer than 80mins > MD
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2005, 06:46:18 PM »
thats a good tip,usually after 45-50 minutes their will usually a decent break,it may sound dumb,but, know the band your're recording,as in,which songs usually roll> in to what songs.recent recordings,current tour)patterns in shows.i have recorded a lot of shows on my mds.i dont think i ever didnt switch mds in time.watch your time-closely(recording time)

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Re: Shows longer than 80mins > MD
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2005, 05:41:32 AM »

As far as the difference between SP and LP2 goes...  if you can't tell the difference then you are missing out on a lot of what SP offers.  IMHO, if you want your recordings to have a hope of being appreciated beyond proof that you were in the room, always use SP.   Good luck

Whilst I agree there is a difference, in my experiences, it's minimal. Thankfully, my recordings have been appreciated and nobody has ever doubted the quality of my recordings (although I am sure they are not in the league as some of you lot), but have to say, the worst recordings I have ever recorded were Depeche Mode at Wembley Arena and they were done in SP. Having said that, my best recording was also done in SP too.

Now that PCM has arrived though and that I have just purchased a new recorder, I will see how that goes.
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