Are there any R-1 bug reports??

[mcq]

I agree with Boogie.  I have not experienced this, and I'm pretty sure a number of others using the R-1 haven't either... if they have, they didn't report it.

Further, the thread seems to implicate the media, and not the recorder.

I've tried with several cards, and the noise is always here when using the internal mics with the rec level set at max. Some cards produce less noise than the others, but I've never encountered a perfectly silent one yet. So if Edirol puts internal mikes in their device, and if those mikes are picking internal noises coming from essential parts of the system (i.e. the CF card), I call it a device-related bug, don't you??

[pfife]

I agree with Boogie.  I have not experienced this, and I'm pretty sure a number of others using the R-1 haven't either... if they have, they didn't report it.

Further, the thread seems to implicate the media, and not the recorder.

I've tried with several cards, and the noise is always here when using the internal mics with the rec level set at max. Some cards produce less noise than the others, but I've never encountered a perfectly silent one yet. So if Edirol puts internal mikes in their device, and if those mikes are picking internal noises coming from essential parts of the system (i.e. the CF card), I call it a device-related bug, don't you??

A bug, I can agree with that, but not a bug that is specific to this device.  Many have reported that when using the NJB3 Mic input, they often pick up hard drive noise.

Also, most people here aren't using the R-1's internal mics.


Edited to add:  Now that I think about it, I actually did use the R-1's internal mics when I was testing battery life - I sampled the recording to make sure there were no artifacts or anything, and I didn't hear what you are describing.  Maybe yours is bad?

[goose]

I agree with Boogie.  I have not experienced this, and I'm pretty sure a number of others using the R-1 haven't either... if they have, they didn't report it.

Further, the thread seems to implicate the media, and not the recorder.

I've tried with several cards, and the noise is always here when using the internal mics with the rec level set at max. Some cards produce less noise than the others, but I've never encountered a perfectly silent one yet. So if Edirol puts internal mikes in their device, and if those mikes are picking internal noises coming from essential parts of the system (i.e. the CF card), I call it a device-related bug, don't you??

I've used the internal mics on my stock R1 for recording music lessons.  I use the max recording volume, in conjunction with the limiter, in this somewhat low volume situation.  I haven't heard any unexpected noises/ticks or any other issues.  I use Kingston and SanDisk CF cards.  I have not done any further tests to exclude the possibility of the unit making noise during recordings, but I've not heard anything yet (from concerts [external mics] or music lessons) that would lead me to believe there is a bug in the unit.  I've played back through headphones and my stereo setup.

Sounds like you moved to another unit, so this info isn't much help to you, but I thought I would put in my two cents.

[mcq]

Now that I think about it, I actually did use the R-1's internal mics when I was testing battery life - I sampled the recording to make sure there were no artifacts or anything, and I didn't hear what you are describing.  Maybe yours is bad?

That's what I'd like to know, and that's why I wrote this post about what may look like a bug or not. (I don't focus on the word, if it's not appropriate I'll choose another word next time. Just let me grab my dictionary. Sorry if I'm not really clear at all times, I'm not really at ease when writing in English.)

first, wtf are you doing using the internal mics running at maximum gain and worrying about fidelity...if you are worried about fidelity
1-use better mics and locate them remotely from background noise sources
2-use an external pre
etc.

That's what I do when I want to record something valuable! But when I want to push the R-1 to its own limits -- because I'm curious about the limits of the gear I bought -- I check everything I can, even those crappy little internal mics at maximum gain 

second, you mention in your own post that you've "never encounterd a perfectly silent one yet" and then go on to call it a device-related bug.....

I meant "silent" in this situation i.e. in the R-1 with internal mics. I didn't mean "silent" in any device, nor outside the device (though a CF card outside a device is painfully quiet )

Sounds like you moved to another unit, so this info isn't much help to you, but I thought I would put in my two cents.

I appreciate your two cents. I won't move to another device, the R-1 with my external preamp fits perfectly my needs.

i suppose one way of looking at it is maybe edirol should have thought about that problem and made the case much larger just to move the internal mics further away from the other components...would you be happier then? with a device that was 2-3x longer just to move those POS internal mics to a quieter spot?

Ha ha ha. I should have known.

[smat]

New bug to report.  Last  nite while trying to tape Acoustic Planet Tour my R1 stops recording around 24 mins.  I turned it off, took out the flash, batteries, blew on them, etc,...and tried to record again.  It goes into standby rec and then stops.  I deleted the file I just made and started over and about 24 mins later it stoped again.  I've been running this thing for several months without incident.  I cant figure out what could be causing this.  Anyone hear of this??

[gewwang]

New bug to report.  Last  nite while trying to tape Acoustic Planet Tour my R1 stops recording around 24 mins.  I turned it off, took out the flash, batteries, blew on them, etc,...and tried to record again.  It goes into standby rec and then stops.  I deleted the file I just made and started over and about 24 mins later it stoped again.  I've been running this thing for several months without incident.  I cant figure out what could be causing this.  Anyone hear of this??

Sounds exactly like what kept happening to me when I first started using the R-1 and was only deleting files off the card and not formatting between shows.

Some people report that they haven't had to do this, but I'm going to keep doing the format for each show with my R-09 until I lose a recording. Haven't had this issue since May 2005 with the R-1 or R-09.

[smat]

I reformated and preliminary test past.  Looks like I'll be reformating after every recording.
Thanks for the reply.