R-4 recording question

[jebi]

hey all...so last night was my first time using the R-4.  I used two 184's,  I had the option of line in or mic in..i choose mic in.  My levels were peaked out and i could not turn them down anymore.   

So i used the limiter abd it helped thing out a lil'.    Then i switched it over to line in and the levels were perfect.



so should i always use line in or is that a no no?                                   

[mmmatt]

hey all...so last night was my first time using the R-4.  I used two 184's,  I had the option of line in or mic in..i choose mic in.  My levels were peaked out and i could not turn them down anymore.   

So i used the limiter abd it helped thing out a lil'.    Then i switched it over to line in and the levels were perfect.



so should i always use line in or is that a no no?                                   

always use the line in.  No question.  the r4 was designed more for news gathering and not lound rock shows.  For quieter shows you can go without it possibly and some guys use the pad on their mics, but it is safe and typicla to use the built in pad.

matt

[jebi]

thanks matt!

my recording came out pretty welll besides alll those idiot people who like to chat about there lives during the whole entire show.   

[Busman Audio]

I recorded the String Summit all weekend on mic in and only had to run the gain on the 2nd mark for excellent levels. I do also reccomend the line-in for rock and most indoor shows though.

[mmmatt]

I recorded the String Summit all weekend on mic in and only had to run the gain on the 2nd mark for excellent levels. I do also reccomend the line-in for rock and most indoor shows though.

Do you think your mod help in that regard Chris?

matt

[BayTaynt3d]

I run mic-in with 10db pads a lot, but if it's loud PA indoors, I run line-in for sure. It's going to depend on your mics and the show, but when starting out if you aren't sure, when in doubt LINE-IN for sure.

[MattH]

Since the R4 only adds gain with the input pots, I would rather run mic in at close to minimum gain than line in at 60% or more gain.

[BayTaynt3d]

Since the R4 only adds gain with the input pots, I would rather run mic in at close to minimum gain than line in at 60% or more gain.

Agreed. But remember, if you are down at zero gain, you've got no where to run when the levels creep up during the set... If I can run at 11 'o clock or higher on the pots, then I'll go mic-in, otherwise, I'll pad it more or go line-in...

[ford prefect]

Since the R4 only adds gain with the input pots, I would rather run mic in at close to minimum gain than line in at 60% or more gain.

Agreed. But remember, if you are down at zero gain, you've got no where to run when the levels creep up during the set...

Had this problem last weekend.  Ran split omnis mic-in for The Roots and even at zero gain there is slight clipping on the recording.  Outdoor set too.  When I switched to the cards after that set there was a huge difference - I was able to add 30% gain to bring it up to normal levels.

[mmmatt]

Since the R4 only adds gain with the input pots, I would rather run mic in at close to minimum gain than line in at 60% or more gain.

Agreed. But remember, if you are down at zero gain, you've got no where to run when the levels creep up during the set...

Had this problem last weekend.  Ran split omnis mic-in for The Roots and even at zero gain there is slight clipping on the recording.  Outdoor set too.  When I switched to the cards after that set there was a huge difference - I was able to add 30% gain to bring it up to normal levels.

Omni's tend to capture more bass... I bet that was the difference in levels.  w/ the 480's there may be a significant difference in the sensitivity of the overall mic from capsul to capsul too.  What config did you run with the cards?

Matt

[ford prefect]

Omni's tend to capture more bass... I bet that was the difference in levels.  w/ the 480's there may be a significant difference in the sensitivity of the overall mic from capsul to capsul too.  What config did you run with the cards?

It was probably NOSish. 90 degress, too much space between capsules for DIN.