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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2007, 03:55:27 PM »
also, when did DMB switch to a stereo mix? That's good to hear

Not a true stereo mix.  Same mix as before but the horns are panned to one side and the fiddle/violin are panned to the other side with a little bleed.

So 98% mono with the horns/fiddle bleed.

 

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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2007, 04:33:17 PM »
Very cool. Thanks for sharing.  I heard someone at a Pink Floyd show at the Rosemont in '87 bought a whole row of seats just for mic separation.

check out Rob Eaton's u87 split tape from Philly 4-21-84 if you haven't heard it


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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2007, 04:42:02 PM »
yea, it is a gem

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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #33 on: September 25, 2007, 04:48:56 PM »
also, when did DMB switch to a stereo mix? That's good to hear

Not a true stereo mix.  Same mix as before but the horns are panned to one side and the fiddle/violin are panned to the other side with a little bleed.

So 98% mono with the horns/fiddle bleed.

 


horns are panned more right, violin to the left.  keys are panned to one side at times, and drums are spread out over the right and left

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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #34 on: September 25, 2007, 05:35:37 PM »
Wow. Its really an interesting tape. I tend to agree with Brian that it lack a strong enough center image, however, its a neat idea for a challenging taping situation. I've never seen DMB, but it seems to give a great approximation of the stereo imaging of the instruments. Good experimenting!

With respect to the lack of center image, I noticed this in a positive way on the walk to work this morning - listening on headphones, there's no cluster-in-the-center-of-your-head effect. It was distributed all over my head in quite an interesting way :)
Got me wondering about how the imaging sounds on the stereo and I'm about to go find out!
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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #35 on: September 25, 2007, 05:51:04 PM »
I've experimented with wide splits in the past - omins, cards, and hypers.  I found that really wide splits worked quite well at spreading the music image out, especially when you were somewhat far back from the PA stacks.  What I didn't like was the crowd noise had almost ZERO center image - it was two balls of crowd coming directly out of the speakers.  This killed the image for me, as I like to submerge myself in the moment and feel like i'm in the venue.  I lose the magic when I can easily pinpoint the location of the playback speakers.  I'd rather have a narrower image of the music if I can come closer to reproducing a holographic image of the whole experience in my head - venue, crowd and all.

I didn't listen to this recording, so I'm just offering up some of my nonsense in general terms.
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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2007, 08:38:11 PM »
Hey MattH....Listening to the 24bit version now....sounds SWEET...Thanks man  ;D

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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2007, 12:14:16 AM »
Very cool. Thanks for sharing.  I heard someone at a Pink Floyd show at the Rosemont in '87 bought a whole row of seats just for mic separation.

check out Rob Eaton's u87 split tape from Philly 4-21-84 if you haven't heard it


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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2007, 12:25:59 AM »
Back in the '80s, I remember a friend of a friend running this for a Greek Dead show....wish I had it now.
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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #39 on: October 02, 2007, 05:45:45 AM »
Back in the '80s, I remember a friend of a friend running this for a Greek Dead show....wish I had it now.

I have a Phish tape from the Greek with a 30' split and it sounds amazing:
10/29/98  Greek Theater  MG300's split 30' 

Unfortunately it's marred by some diginoise so I've never transferred it from the DAT.
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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #40 on: October 03, 2007, 12:34:27 PM »
Back in the '80s, I remember a friend of a friend running this for a Greek Dead show....wish I had it now.

I have a Phish tape from the Greek with a 30' split and it sounds amazing:
10/29/98  Greek Theater  MG300's split 30' 

Unfortunately it's marred by some diginoise so I've never transferred it from the DAT.

different Greek - the Phish tape is from the Greek in LA, not Berkely
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