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MM-BSM-9 and comparisons
« on: December 21, 2009, 03:49:08 AM »
Hello,

I have purchased a long time ago the MM-BSM-9 but tried to use it only recently, mainly because the signal was too loud for my old MiniDisk recorder. When I moved to R-09 I tried again but I was not happy with the results and the recording result did not please me, even compared to an old Aiwa CM-DS6 which to me deliver much much better results.

Now I will order a CA-14 (reading the great comments of this forum on this mics) and I am somehow curious but also worried that it will have basically the same results of the MM. Do I really have to worry or it's just me?  ::)

Thanks for any return from your experience.

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Re: MM-BSM-9 and comparisons
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2009, 07:37:03 AM »
Nothing wrong with the CA-14.  However, as with all mics, the user is an important factor in how they will perform.

Are you recording amplified rock music?  If so, you will need a power supply in your gear chain.  You cannot run the CA-14 directly into a stock R-09 to record loud music; you will need the chain to be:

CA-14>battery box or preamp>line-in input on R-09. 

You can buy a cheap battery box from Church to go with the mics, or one of his CA-9100 preamps.  Basic battery boxes are also available at MM or at Soundprofessionals.com   I personally am partial to the SPSB-10, which uses a smaller 12v battery and is about the smalllest BB I have found.
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Re: MM-BSM-9 and comparisons
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2009, 08:08:41 AM »
I personally am partial to the SPSB-10, which uses a smaller 12v battery and is about the smalllest BB I have found.

CA BB is only slightly larger than a 9v battery. Is the SPSB-10 smaller?
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Re: MM-BSM-9 and comparisons
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2009, 02:15:47 PM »
I personally am partial to the SPSB-10, which uses a smaller 12v battery and is about the smalllest BB I have found.

The CA box is plenty small and gets hundreds of hours out of 1 battery. The SPSB-10 gets only 30-50 hours, so there would be a lot more worries about when to change the battery.
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Re: MM-BSM-9 and comparisons
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2009, 02:54:40 PM »
I personally am partial to the SPSB-10, which uses a smaller 12v battery and is about the smalllest BB I have found.

CA BB is only slightly larger than a 9v battery. Is the SPSB-10 smaller?
It uses a tiny 12v TV remote battery, so I believe it is thinner than a 9V battery, a touch wider. One advantage it has over the Church small BB is that the battery itself isn't exposed, but inside a plastic casing. I find that a little more secure. 

Both are, of course, quite small.
Mics: Schoeps MK4V, MK41V, MK5, MK22> CMC6, KCY 250/5, KC5, NBob; MBHO MBP603/KA200N, AT 3031, DPA 4061 w/ d:vice, Naiant X-X, AT 853c, shotgun, Nak300
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Re: MM-BSM-9 and comparisons
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2009, 04:25:03 PM »
^ I don't move my gear when taping, so having the battery exposed doesn't bother me. I think the last time I used it I gaffed the battery to the back of my HR.
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Re: MM-BSM-9 and comparisons
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2009, 08:47:34 AM »
Nothing wrong with the CA-14.  However, as with all mics, the user is an important factor in how they will perform.

Are you recording amplified rock music?  If so, you will need a power supply in your gear chain.  You cannot run the CA-14 directly into a stock R-09 to record loud music; you will need the chain to be:

CA-14>battery box or preamp>line-in input on R-09. 

You can buy a cheap battery box from Church to go with the mics, or one of his CA-9100 preamps.  Basic battery boxes are also available at MM or at Soundprofessionals.com   I personally am partial to the SPSB-10, which uses a smaller 12v battery and is about the smalllest BB I have found.

I have ordered the whole package that includes battery box, so I should be all right.
Thanks for the tip to plug it on the Line-in instaed of the Mic-in, I did not think about it.

metrocubo

 

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