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Mic stand suggestions for stage-lip recordings?
« on: November 27, 2009, 11:30:05 PM »
Wondering what mic stands people are using for stage lip recordings.........particularly seeking budget-minded suggestions.  I'm thinking something about 1.5 to 2.5 feet high would be good, but am open to opinions on this matter too.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Mic stand suggestions for stage-lip recordings?
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2009, 12:25:41 AM »
This doesn't really address your specific question, but my regular stand works fine for stage lip also.  I just unfold the legs and don't telescope up the center arm.  The mics are maybe 3 feet high.  I can't remember the model, but it's one of the popular bogen manfrotto stands that runs something like $60 new.
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Re: Mic stand suggestions for stage-lip recordings?
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2009, 12:35:58 AM »
Stage lip is one of those generic terms that can encompass a lot of different actual physical dimensions to contend with.  Sometimes just a basic light stand with no extension is your only option, but if you can find something that will hold a clamp, I think a Bogen superclamp, and a telescoping extension like one of these can be more stable and less obtrusive:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/33185-REG/Matthews_429499_Telescopic_Baby_Stand_Extension.html
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Re: Mic stand suggestions for stage-lip recordings?
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2009, 10:15:12 AM »
I've only used this a couple of times, but worked well for me.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/ProLine-ProLine-MS112-Desk-Boom-Mic-Stand-100623974-i1168473.gc

with the  boom arm you can adjust height and angle nicely, and the base is solid with  bit of weight, not too easy to knock over.
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Re: Mic stand suggestions for stage-lip recordings?
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2009, 09:46:49 AM »
Thanks folks, I appreciate the input.  I'm thinking that this item might be the way to go for now and for some stage-lip situations.

http://www.long-mcquade.com/products/4486/

Thanks again.
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Re: Mic stand suggestions for stage-lip recordings?
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2009, 12:29:03 PM »
An alternative is the traditional bogen fob stand, or if you have somewhere to clamp, a superclamp and a 396b arm (or 196 arm if you don't have a lot of weight) would work as well. The fob stand has about 1.5' height when the legs are out but not extension, and your arm has a minimum height of about 14 inches. If you need links, let me know and I'll dig some up.
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Re: Mic stand suggestions for stage-lip recordings?
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2009, 07:46:17 PM »
I have a small kick drum mic stand that I use.  It's nothing but a weighted base and a collapsible pole that goes from about 1-2 ft tall.  I think I paid $10 for it.  Since the base is detachable, I disassemble it and keep it in my gear bag.  It also works great on tables and on shelves (at house concerts).

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Re: Mic stand suggestions for stage-lip recordings?
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2009, 11:26:25 AM »
I use a pair of desktop mic stands from Radio Shack with a flexible extension added to both. I got the extensions for Guitar Center but Rat Shack sells them too as does just about any musical instrument store.

I record a lot of matrix recordings at one club with a low stage with mics at the stage lip in a split omni configuration. I use the monitors as baffles of sorts by placing the mics on the sides of two of them. The flex adapter allows me to move the mics themselves closer to the monitors so that the band members don't knock them coming on and off the stage.
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Re: Mic stand suggestions for stage-lip recordings?
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2009, 10:56:26 PM »
Thanks for all the suggestions, folks.  I went with the stand I linked to, for now.  It's slightly heavy, but I feel like I will be able to safely perch my LSD-2 and church omni mics (on home-made 3' omni bar) safely and with a low enough profile on it's stable frame. Thanks again and keep the suggestions coming!
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Re: Mic stand suggestions for stage-lip recordings?
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2009, 03:36:37 PM »
I may be late but...
looks like you found a stand
but
if you are either "On" stage or at the lip, you could try a dynalite 0470
see my thread on chopping one:
here
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=108769.0

it's great for both onstage - or stage lip- or FOB

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Re: Mic stand suggestions for stage-lip recordings?
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2009, 12:21:27 PM »
I've only used this a couple of times, but worked well for me.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/ProLine-ProLine-MS112-Desk-Boom-Mic-Stand-100623974-i1168473.gc

with the  boom arm you can adjust height and angle nicely, and the base is solid with  bit of weight, not too easy to knock over.

My experience was the same with this stand, sufficient weight on the foot to not feel like it will topple over. I've used it quite a few times and it's performed well, just ran a shure VP-88 and 2x nak300's on it last weekend onstage so it can hold some mics.
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Re: Mic stand suggestions for stage-lip recordings?
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2009, 11:27:19 PM »
manfrotto 3350

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/512193-REG/Manfrotto_by_Bogen_Imaging_156BLB_156BLB_Black_Mini_Kit.html

bought one to run at stage lip but haven't gotten the chance to use it that way. I did use it in a theater setting where the audience sat the entire time and I recorded from my seat. It has a tiny footprint and extended to my head height to stay low pro.
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Re: Mic stand suggestions for stage-lip recordings?
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2009, 08:30:55 PM »
^^^ on the link to my chopped stand
this is the unit
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/16614-REG/Dyna_Lite_0470_Black_Compact_Light_6_5_.html#specifications

made by Manfrotto its a bit bigger than the one that  perks listed and a bit more expensive - how ever its minimum height is only a few inches taller:

Minimum Height
    19.3" (49cm)
as opposed to

Minimum Height
    15.7" (40 cm)

and

Closed Length
    19" (48cm)

as opposed to

Closed Length
    17.7" (40 cm)

but the dynalite goes up to 6.5'
 instead of 4'
which is infinitely more versatile for low pro FOB recordings as well as on stage one.
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