Topic: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...

[weroflu]

Looking for a low profile dedicated simple ui recorder for m2d2.

Mixpre no go, no digital ins.
Spdr resamples
702 just a bit too large


Possible: galaxy tab a9/7. Need to confirm powered usb hub
will work. Would also like (maybe even require) ez access sd card slot
I think some hubs have them integrated

Dr100 iii with aes>spdif dongle

Gpd micro pc

Any other ideas?

Minir82 in YS tempting but $$ and long in tooth

[kindms]

Looking for a low profile dedicated simple ui recorder for m2d2.

Mixpre no go, no digital ins.
Spdr resamples
702 just a bit too large


Possible: galaxy tab a9/7. Need to confirm powered usb hub
will work. Would also like (maybe even require) ez access sd card slot
I think some hubs have them integrated

Dr100 iii with aes>spdif dongle

Gpd micro pc

Any other ideas?

Minir82 in YS tempting but $$ and long in tooth

any old iphone ? thats what i use. iphone7 with no service. usb > iphone > apogee metarecorder app.

[weroflu]

Yerp that's under consideration too as is a 5 or 6" android.
There are a lot of strange dead ends, ie usb audio recorder pro for android
only works in landscape. 

I dont like apples but in this case an iPhone might be best choice.

And I'm trying to think through the whole workflow re usb pen drive or sd card
for easily moving files to laptop.

Lenovo yt700 legion, iphone 7-12, galaxy s something phone... top 3

Anker 555 hub en route to test always on phone.

Lenovo has 2 usb's so it can always charge without hub.

[wforwumbo]

I ran the M2D2 out of USB-C into an iPhone 15 running apogee meta recorder. This is now my go-to 2 channel rig, super convenient and lightweight plus it sounds stellar.

Has anyone 3d printed a case from the files that Sonosax provides? I'd like to get a shell to protect it, the pre overheated in my gear bag and I think the large shell would help with air circulation to cool the unit.

[grawk]

My m2d2 came with a 3d printed case (bought used)

[kindms]

I ran the M2D2 out of USB-C into an iPhone 15 running apogee meta recorder. This is now my go-to 2 channel rig, super convenient and lightweight plus it sounds stellar.

Has anyone 3d printed a case from the files that Sonosax provides? I'd like to get a shell to protect it, the pre overheated in my gear bag and I think the large shell would help with air circulation to cool the unit.

the m2d2 overheated ?

i run mine almost identical to you and i dont recall the unit ever got hot. and to your first question a member here did print some from the files on the website. its how i got mine

[audBall]

While mine hasn't overheated, I have encountered the flashing "TEMP" (temperature charge error, according to the manual p.14) within the battery level box on the screen while running with an external Talentcell battery. Removing the connection immediately resolves the issue and the level indicator returns to normal.

Reviewing the manual, it states these Operating Conditions:

Charging Li-ion battery 0 to +45°C (113F)
Operating temperature -20 to +70°C (158F)

It appears that while charging the threshold for overheating is lowered, which makes sense. My experiences with the TEMP error were during the summer, although outside ambient temperatures didn't really exceed ~80-90F, but it seems possible that even a well-ventilated rig bag could easily exceed 113F.  That said, I'm not a big fan of the required 18650 battery. Having to step away for an entire set or show while leaving an external battery connected might run the risk of overheating if you aren't able to catch the TEMP error in time. I haven't ran enough tests to figure out the best solution.

Are people comfortably running for an entire show on a single 18650?

[kindms]

interesting experiences by folks. I guess ill have to keep a better eye on it. only time i ran in to an issue was my iphone getting super hot on a blazing day last summer. but ive had that happen in non taping situations as well. not sure id run the phone all day at a fest without some cooling opting for my old hdp2 if i had the need i guess.

I always run mine plugged in to the talentcell. i run both the phone and m2d2 off the talent cell and have never noticed heat at all. my V3 used to get HOT i wouldnt even close the bag

[Gutbucket]

Talentcell output is unregulated, at least the 9V and 12V outputs, not sure about the 5V USB port.  In my primary use powering Zoom F8 the voltage on the 12V output port drops from 12V down to 9-10V as the battery discharges.  Speculation, but the sagging output voltage might cause a higher current draw as compensation, potentially generating additional heat.

[weroflu]

can usb input and output be used at the same time?
i want to look into aes or usb input, mix with analog mix ins and send out via usb       

[fanofjam]

Just received my SX-M2D2 today and going to record with it in two days.  I read all 14 pages of this thread and the following questions weren't addressed.  The manual isn't very clear on these questions either, if they're even addressed.

So, under the category of 'no question is a dumb question', when using a USB cable and recording to an iphone via the agogee metarecorder app, is that recording an AES digital recording?

When I connect the M2D2 to the iphone and open the metarecorder app, does the app recognize the connection (ie option to choose the internal iphone mic or the preamp) or do I need to do some kind of setup in either the M2D2 menu or the metarecoder app settings?

Final possibly dumb question is where does metarecorder put the recorded file on my iphone?  Also, after connecting my iphone to my laptop, how do I navigate to get the recorded file transferred to my computer, since IIRC you can't just plug in an iphone and navigate the iphone's file directory.

For what it's worth, I'm using an iphone 17, so it has a USB-C input and don't need to futz around with a lightning cable.

Thanks in advance, genius's.

Steve

[grawk]

AES is a transmission mechanism so using usb is usb and not aes.

I do not believe you can use the iPhone mic at the same time as the sonosax, but you could play with settings and validate that.

To access the recordings you use the “files” app. Navigate to “On My Phone” and then MetaRecorder

[al w.]

In my experience using it with other USB-C devices the app will automatically recognize the input and switch to it

[audBall]

The Metarecorder app should detect the connection to the M2D2 immediately. On the bottom left of the app, you'll want to select "Scenes" to make sure the File Format is changed from Broadcast WAV to CAF (lossless Apple format). You'll also want to make sure the sample rate selection matches the signal being sent from the M2D2. I've been using 96kHz successfully. Audacity will convert CAF to WAV easily.

In addition to the Files app, you can also access the recordings through iTunes when your phone is connected to a PC.

[fanofjam]

Thanks alot for the feedback fellas.  Very helpful indeed.