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DV-RA1000 calling all users...
« on: October 23, 2005, 09:48:39 PM »
The Tascam DV-RA1000 manual leaves much to be desired IMO, does anyone want to assist in constructing a comprehensive FAQ?

Moke, MattH, VA TAPER?  :hmmm:

Is such an effort worth the time?
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Re: DV-RA1000 calling all users...
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2005, 10:03:43 PM »
what you stuck on? anything particular?

At the moment, duplication of the master discs.  I'd like to be able to have backups, as well as send some copies back to Doug instead of having to send a DSD > PCM copy or the master.  If I recall correctly, MattH succesfully used a DVD duplicater stand-alone to copy a disc, I haven't had any success with software and would much rather find a PC (software/burner) duplication solution without having to pick up a stand-alone unit.

Overall I feel pretty comfortable using the unit, but I find myself spending much time refering back to old posts frequently.  I have a bunch of printed posts from here along with some random notes jammed in a binder with the user manual, I know I'd benefit greatly from a well constructed FAQ.

Where to start?  I'll start working on an outline, perhaps using the manual as a topic reference and adding in taper related topics?
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Re: DV-RA1000 calling all users...
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2005, 11:26:04 PM »
I haven't tried but I thought saving as an image file and burning data to DVD+RW worked. Also the same for 24 bit PCM files. I am about to try this with moke's 2/12/89, at least when I finally finish downloading it.

The standalone still works great as I backup every DSD recording with it.

Good idea on the FAQ suggestion with this thing...
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Re: DV-RA1000 calling all users...
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2005, 11:27:17 PM »
what you stuck on? anything particular?

At the moment, duplication of the master discs.  I'd like to be able to have backups, as well as send some copies back to Doug instead of having to send a DSD > PCM copy or the master.  If I recall correctly, MattH succesfully used a DVD duplicater stand-alone to copy a disc, I haven't had any success with software and would much rather find a PC (software/burner) duplication solution without having to pick up a stand-alone unit.

Overall I feel pretty comfortable using the unit, but I find myself spending much time refering back to old posts frequently.  I have a bunch of printed posts from here along with some random notes jammed in a binder with the user manual, I know I'd benefit greatly from a well constructed FAQ.

Where to start?  I'll start working on an outline, perhaps using the manual as a topic reference and adding in taper related topics?

Use DVDDecrypter in ISO mode, create an image on your hard drvie, and then use DVDDEcrypter to reburn that image, works like a charm!

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Re: DV-RA1000 calling all users...
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2005, 12:18:02 AM »
I played around with DVD Decrypter, but didn't get past the main menu.  Moke might have me beat in PC skillz.   ::)

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Re: DV-RA1000 calling all users...
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2005, 12:45:41 AM »
Uhmmm,... I'm a Mac guy, and a newb at that. Though, I did learn to flac, and work with 24bit the last 10 days!

You still might have my PC skills beat.   8)
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Re: DV-RA1000 calling all users...
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2005, 01:03:22 PM »
I played around with DVD Decrypter, but didn't get past the main menu.  Moke might have me beat in PC skillz.   ::)


Anyone up for a helping hand, I still haven't figured out how to dup a disc...  :banging head:
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Re: DV-RA1000 calling all users...
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2005, 09:15:16 AM »
Sorry for being absent, I've been moving.  Looks like your DVDR drive is not reading the DVD+RW.  Connect the USB2.0 cable between the DV-RA1000 and your PC then run DVD Decrypter.

Should work, keep me posted.

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Re: DV-RA1000 calling all users...
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2005, 07:51:03 PM »
Easy question for you owners - what format is output through the analog outputs for DSD disc playback (like plugging directly into an integrated with analog input only)? 

Would that ouput DSD to the amp or would it be somehow re-sampled to something else?  What about 24/192, 24/96, etc?  I am looking at the unit's output, not necessarily what the integrated might do to it.

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Re: DV-RA1000 calling all users...
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2005, 08:25:14 PM »
Sounds like DSD is a no-go for me then.  If you are playing back a DSD recording, do you know what the SPDIF and AES would be outputting (24/192?), since I could not connect to the DSD output?

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Re: DV-RA1000 calling all users...
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2005, 08:34:08 PM »
Thanks for the info.  How do you listen to your DSD recordings/connect to your home stereo?

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Re: DV-RA1000 calling all users...
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2005, 08:41:42 PM »
Sorry to drag this out - what resolution are you hearing at that point, since you aren't using the DSD output (different circuit)?

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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2005, 09:22:03 PM »
There is a special DSD convertor by Mytek?  Must be pricey. 

I totally understand that you are using the DAC of the machine when playing back DSD recordings.  Does your home system allow you to know what stream is being output by the analog ouputs, such as the 24/96, etc?  I'm not sure why I am hung up on that - you do say after all that it is nice sounding, as expected.

Do you understand what I am trying to ask?  There may be something I am misunderstanding - I obviously don't have one yet.

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Re: DV-RA1000 calling all users...
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2005, 09:23:50 PM »
There is a special DSD convertor by Mytek?  Must be pricey. 

I totally understand that you are using the DAC of the machine when playing back DSD recordings.  Does your home system allow you to know what stream is being output by the analog ouputs, such as the 24/96, etc?  I'm not sure why I am hung up on that - you do say after all that it is nice sounding, as expected.

Do you understand what I am trying to ask?  There may be something I am misunderstanding - I obviously don't have one yet.

dsd is an alternative to pcm...

so when he listens to dsd masters with the machine, the format ("stream") you are asking about is dsd

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Re: DV-RA1000 calling all users...
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2005, 09:36:06 PM »

dsd is an alternative to pcm...

so when he listens to dsd masters with the machine, the format ("stream") you are asking about is dsd


analog is analog, digital is digital, and you've mixed the two in the last reply. The signal is strictly that, analog. Its already be decoded before you hear it, at the point we are referrencing.

You might as well think of the dvra1000 as two separate units housed in one shell. If you are playing dsd, the pcm side is totally disabled, and all processing is via dsd inside the machine, and I'm listening to the analog output. Analog is strictly analog.
In DSD mode, the digital pcm 24bit outputs are totally dead.
In PCM mode, the DSD side is totally dead.
There is no meeting of the two digital signals at any point in playback or recording.
If you have a proper dac, then you can listen to either format as processed from outside the machine, but once again,... the DAC of teh tascam is really nice sounding in either mode (but it can't be in both modes at the same time).


Now I get it - sorry for the confusion, and thank you both for clearing that up for me!

 

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