Topic: Broadcast WAV??

[Scuba Jeremy]

So, in order to "get permission" to tape the band that I've been archiving for almost two years, I had to promise the "professional" mixing the room that I would post the show on my webspace shortly after the show for him to download and listen to himself. I recorded the show in 24bit/48khz, but when I was taking down his information, he said he wasn't very familiar with FLAC or SHN, and that he prefered to download the show in "Broadcast WAV" format.  Damn, so I downsampled and dithered the show from 24/48 to 16/44.1 and am uploading the show to my webspace now, but then I realized - maybe this isn't the right format? It's just a standard PCM WAV file - is that Broadcast WAV, or is that something else?

At any rate, the dude really kinda irked me. He wasn't about to let me tape at all, stating that the band can do whatever they want with their material, but soundman dude doesn't get any extra compensation for his mixing of the show, and that anything coming out of the speakers was just as much his work as the bands. After I explained that I had no intention of selling the show, and after having offered him a listen to previous tapes of mine and a promise to make available "his mix" online did he "let" me record. It just pissed me off.

Anyway, that's my story. And is 16bit/44.1Khz PCM WAV passable for "Broadcast WAV"? Thanks.

[F.O.Bean]

broadcast wav just has metadata in the header, the audio wavs arent any diff

ask him why he needs broadcast wav, tell him you did not record in BWF, only in PCM WAV, and to take it or leave it, and to leave his elitist-ass at the door

[poorlyconditioned]

So, in order to "get permission" to tape the band that I've been archiving for almost two years, I had to promise the "professional" mixing the room that I would post the show on my webspace shortly after the show for him to download and listen to himself. I recorded the show in 24bit/48khz, but when I was taking down his information, he said he wasn't very familiar with FLAC or SHN, and that he prefered to download the show in "Broadcast WAV" format.  Damn, so I downsampled and dithered the show from 24/48 to 16/44.1 and am uploading the show to my webspace now, but then I realized - maybe this isn't the right format? It's just a standard PCM WAV file - is that Broadcast WAV, or is that something else?

At any rate, the dude really kinda irked me. He wasn't about to let me tape at all, stating that the band can do whatever they want with their material, but soundman dude doesn't get any extra compensation for his mixing of the show, and that anything coming out of the speakers was just as much his work as the bands. After I explained that I had no intention of selling the show, and after having offered him a listen to previous tapes of mine and a promise to make available "his mix" online did he "let" me record. It just pissed me off.

Anyway, that's my story. And is 16bit/44.1Khz PCM WAV passable for "Broadcast WAV"? Thanks.

I've had similar, but much milder reactions from sound techs.  I think anyone who derives their livelihood from the artists is going to be irked, or at least puzzled by taping.  They feel, rightly or wrongly, that we may take away money or control from them, eg., in mixing or producing the artists work.  Plus, I think next to tapirs, sound techs are some of the wierdest people out there   What these people don't realize is they've got a job because people come to shows, and we help with that.

Anyway, in my case the sound tech wanted his name on the CDs I sent to bands.  I always put my Email right on the disc, so people can reach me.  But he wanted a credit on the disc as well.  It was not as if we were releasing it or anything, but he wanted his name there.

  Richard

[heath]

bwav is a file containing more info, like bean said.  It contains timestamping info, authoring info, etc etc etc.   It's all we use in the pro world, but as far as the audio goes, it's all the same.  no difference sonicly between a wav and bwav.

[wbrisette]

The biggest issue for most people is the timecode information. However, if you're only recording 2 tracks, that information is pretty useless (unless you're syncing to video or film). That's one of the reasons the 722 doesn't do time code, but the 744T does. You really need the time code stuff when you start dealing with multiple tracks and multiple sessions.

Wayne