Topic: Boom for LD's to run Blumlein ???

[rowjimmytour]

I need a cheap boom that I can run my Tl's in Blumlein w/ my AKG swivel bar. I made one but don't feel 100% confident in it's strength so I would like to buy a cheap one that has been proven out in the field. I don't plan on running blumlein to often so I don't want to spend to much. I wouldn't mind a solid DIY plan for vert bar that would allow me to run blumlein too.
Peace

[RebelRebel]

You dont need a boom...

just a shure a27m and
http://www.fastenal.com/web/products/detail.ex?sku=0148071

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0152183 sku number on rod..WBrissette also makes a killer one...

[Brian Skalinder]

A Windtech "C" clamps clamps will do the trick[/url], no need for the stereo bar, necessarily.

(FWIW, in the pics below, no need to run the top mic on the bottom side of the clamp.  You can pick up some height by running the first mic above the top clamp.)

I going to need to see what kind of space my bag has when they come and go from there.

The biggest PITA I have is how to carry the shockmounts.  They take a lot of physical space, but don't fill the volume.  My old bag was easy - drop 'em in the netting pouches.  Unfortunately, the SoniCase doesn't have netting pouches.  At least not yet...time to mod the bag!

Do you think a swival mount will work with a shure vertical bar for vertical alignment or will I need a staight bar?

I'm not sure what you mean by swivel mount.  My first setup was using the Shure A27M (vert bar) on top of the stand, with one mic dropped down from the shockmount attached to the top of the A27M.  The lower thread on the A27M was not low enough, so I clamped the other mic to the stand, with the bottom mic facing upright.  Kinda like this.  But I found it was tough to get the mics in the same vertical plane because the Shure vert bar + shockmount held the mic further off the stand than the clamp + shockmount did.  Additionally, the mics positioned so far off the stand's center pole made my leightweight low-pro stand unstable.  I had the same problems running the mics horizontally, instead of vertically (more pics here similar to the setups I've tried).

So now I just use two clamps, which enables me to run the mics very close to the stand's center pole.  Stability = good.    The downside is a lose some height this way.  But I rarely run much above 6'-7', anyway.  And if I needed to, I could simply clamp to the Shure bar to gain a little extra height.

[nic]

I would agree with what skalinder posted.
having owned both TLs and 414s, the weight get sup there and the clamps seem to do the best job.
also, due to the weight, run the pole vertically, not sideways...

[rowjimmytour]

A Windtech "C" clamps clamps will do the trick[/url], no need for the stereo bar, necessarily.

(FWIW, in the pics below, no need to run the top mic on the bottom side of the clamp.  You can pick up some height by running the first mic above the top clamp.)

I going to need to see what kind of space my bag has when they come and go from there.

The biggest PITA I have is how to carry the shockmounts.  They take a lot of physical space, but don't fill the volume.  My old bag was easy - drop 'em in the netting pouches.  Unfortunately, the SoniCase doesn't have netting pouches.  At least not yet...time to mod the bag!

Do you think a swival mount will work with a shure vertical bar for vertical alignment or will I need a staight bar?

I'm not sure what you mean by swivel mount.  My first setup was using the Shure A27M (vert bar) on top of the stand, with one mic dropped down from the shockmount attached to the top of the A27M.  The lower thread on the A27M was not low enough, so I clamped the other mic to the stand, with the bottom mic facing upright.  Kinda like this.  But I found it was tough to get the mics in the same vertical plane because the Shure vert bar + shockmount held the mic further off the stand than the clamp + shockmount did.  Additionally, the mics positioned so far off the stand's center pole made my leightweight low-pro stand unstable.  I had the same problems running the mics horizontally, instead of vertically (more pics here similar to the setups I've tried).

So now I just use two clamps, which enables me to run the mics very close to the stand's center pole.  Stability = good.    The downside is a lose some height this way.  But I rarely run much above 6'-7', anyway.  And if I needed to, I could simply clamp to the Shure bar to gain a little extra height.

I am kinda bein' a lazy retard because I already own a Super Clamp and I made sure it would work w/ my swivel bar and it does. Thanks for the help and +t's to all.
Peace

[Teen Wolf Blitzer]

I need a cheap boom that I can run my Tl's in Blumlein w/ my AKG swivel bar. I made one but don't feel 100% confident in it's strength so I would like to buy a cheap one that has been proven out in the field. I don't plan on running blumlein to often so I don't want to spend to much. I wouldn't mind a solid DIY plan for vert bar that would allow me to run blumlein too.
Peace

2 words.  Mark Bar   

[CQBert]

I use a pair of Bogen Super Clamps - Actually keep 3 in my bag.

They have never let me down and are rock solid.

I also have a Bogen Tripple bar that will allow me to clamp to a rail, balcony, ceiling joist, etc and adjust height as necessary.  This toy also come in handy for a split omni config that I run in a small club near home using a support column as a psuedo-J Disk

Probably have pictures somewhere if anyone is interested.

CQBert

[beanstalk]

I've been using the clamps as recommended by Skalinder, and it works great. Works great with TL's.

[rowjimmytour]

I've been using the clamps as recommended by Skalinder, and it works great. Works great with TL's.

Yeaah!! I think For how many times I am goin' to run blumlein my super clamp and swivel bar well work fine. I marked on my stand post more or less where to attach my clamp and I run my shock on top of swivel bar bent over back and pointin' forward. This aligns me perfect for vertical coincident and I do believe this well work.
Peace