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R-09 Line in?
« on: May 13, 2007, 10:23:12 AM »
I'm just now trying out my Edirol R-09.  I have the Giant Squid Powered Omnis but I am not using the battery box.

When I plug in to Mic In with AGC on, Low Cut off, and Mic Gain on High I get sound.  Mic power is also turned on in the R-09 menu.

However, with those same settings applied and with the mics plugged into Line In I get nothing.  No sound.

Now, is this because these mics needs to be powered to work, do I have a defective unit, or am I doing something wrong.

I should also note that I hear nothing in the headphones when montioring with the mics in Line In.

Thanks.
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Re: R-09 Line in?
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2007, 10:50:49 AM »
Yes, indeed, your mics need some sort of power. Activating Plug in power results only in powering through mic-in. Line in needs expects some line level input. You could use a battery box or a pre-amp, or be just fine using the mic in, imho.
Don't know about those squids, maybe they need some specific voltage to reach full dynamics. I vaguely remember the R-09 having 3 volts as plug-in power, a battery box would power your mics a 9 volts..
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Re: R-09 Line in?
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2007, 10:52:33 AM »
NO mic power available from the LINE input. 

Suggest MIC in ONLY without also having external power module for this mic. 

No reason to use LINE input as R-09 MIC input is VERY resistant to overloads approaching professional line levels!   

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Re: R-09 Line in?
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2007, 01:27:59 PM »
Thanks guys.

I do have the battery box for the squids.  So, if I hook that up and line in it, then it should work?  I am just testing all my equipment 1) to make sure everything works and 2) so I understand what I am doing.

All the hardware is new to me so I want to make sure its working correctly.
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Re: R-09 Line in?
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2007, 03:14:37 PM »
When using the batterybox you should be able to hear at least something on Line in. The mics I have give quite a low signal, and I have to crank up my signal using line-in. There should be at least *some* signal using a batterybox. Try screaming into the mics ;)
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Re: R-09 Line in?
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2007, 11:37:05 PM »
Running my AT853's > R09 is probably somewhat similar to your Squids...  run it as required to get the gain you need at the time.  I don't think there is one right answer.

At a normal "loud" show, I run Mics > Batt Box > Line in, with gain set frequently in the 15-20 range.  There is enough drive here that I don't need any additional gain mic preamp gain, so I just run line in...

If it's a quiet, typically acoustic, type show, I would run Mic-In (low sensitivity typically).  If I where to use Mic > batbox > Line in as described above, I would have to run line in at a full 30 gain, and still have low levels.   The preamp exists to be used, so I use it in this case.

I have run my Nak mics (which are well known to have very low levels) into mic input on HIGH gain, because I need the gain.

I don't typically use AGC... I just don't like it... but that's preference.

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