Topic: I have a microphone question (new guy here)

[MSTaper]

Hey guys, would it be possible to run AKC C-1000s mics or Studio Projects C4 mics with a CA ST-9000 preamp? If so, what type of cable would I need to go from the mics to the pre and is it readily available? I'd be running them with an R-09. Thanks in advance for all the help so far. rWc3523

[stantheman1976]

Do they require phantom power?  If so then you can't run them with a CA preamp or the likes.  You need a phantom power adapter and/or preamp.  I had a similar question in another thread though.  I have a phantom supply for my Joe Meeks, but I was wondering if it would be possible to put a SP preamp in line with that if it would boost the mics sensitivity without having to spend more money on a bigger preamp.  I doubt it's possible, but you never know.

[Gordon]

I know for a fact the akg c1000's can run on phantom or internal battery's.

[MSTaper]

Thanks guys, but is there a way to run either of these mics with a R-09 ? Appreciate the help. rWc3523

[dgodwin]

you can run the AKG C1000s on a 9v battery.  You then won't need a phantom power unit or preamp.  A lot of people have run a pair of C1000s ->transformers -> recorder (line in usually, but mic in works too)  The transformers I'm taliking about are these  When I ran the C1000s I had a pair of AT transformers but they're basically all the same.   The C4s require phantom power, so if you're looking to avoid purchasing a preamp, or a phantom power supply, you won't be able to go that route.  Hope this helps.

[MSTaper]

Thanks, dgodwin. Doesn't the R-09 have sufficient phantom power for those mics? How about a Church Audio ST-9000 preamp? Thanks again. Russ C.

[dgodwin]

neither the R-09 nor the Church Audio ST-9000 preamp provide phantom power.  The church preamp provides power to smaller microphones, usually either lavalier or hanging microphones, that would normally connect to a wireless body pack (right, Chris?)  It's not designed to provide phantom power.  The mic-in on the R-09 is designed for the stereo mic you can purchase for it and other "plug-in powered microphones" 

[MSTaper]

So is there a way to run that type of mic with an R-09? What type of pre-amp or power supply would I need. And I'm just tossing this around  for the moment. I have an st-9000 and CA cards coming, but I'm just thinking of other options. Appreciate the help. rWc3523

[jkbyram]

So is there a way to run that type of mic with an R-09? What type of pre-amp or power supply would I need. And I'm just tossing this around  for the moment. I have an st-9000 and CA cards coming, but I'm just thinking of other options. Appreciate the help. rWc3523

as good as the church cards sound, i would save the 300 you would spend on c1000's and get something better. i started with c1000's and once you get the bug you would want to upgrade. run your church audio and get the hang of running and enjoy while saving cash. i have heard some recent avantone ck1 recordings that sound better than many of my old c1000 recordings. they are inexpensive with multiple caps that come with the mics.

[MSTaper]

jk, that's what I plan to do for the time being. One thing with taping is there seems to always be a wealth of available equipment. I'm going to try and rig up a stand for the CA Cards and have fun around here! I've seen several neat ideas from very cheap to expensive, with little to quite a bit of work involved. I think I'll just clip them to a homemade T-bar first then look at playing with some PVC maybe. Some good ideas here. Thanks for the advice. Russ C.

[pwig]

So is there a way to run that type of mic with an R-09? What type of pre-amp or power supply would I need. And I'm just tossing this around  for the moment. I have an st-9000 and CA cards coming, but I'm just thinking of other options. Appreciate the help. rWc3523

as good as the church cards sound, i would save the 300 you would spend on c1000's and get something better. i started with c1000's and once you get the bug you would want to upgrade. run your church audio and get the hang of running and enjoy while saving cash. i have heard some recent avantone ck1 recordings that sound better than many of my old c1000 recordings. they are inexpensive with multiple caps that come with the mics.

i am really interested in advice on a set of mics to purchase. i can spend $500-$750 and would be running into a sony dat deck or a microtrack.

thanks!

[Shawn]

i am really interested in advice on a set of mics to purchase. i can spend $500-$750 and would be running into a sony dat deck or a microtrack.

thanks!

do you have a pre-amp to run between the mics and the recorder? If not I'd suggest you split your budget and spend a portion of it on a pre-amp and part on mics. You could get a digi-mod ua-5 and some avantone ck1s, studio project c4s, or oktava mc-12 and still be in your price range. If you have a pre-amp I'd look at mics like the akg460, beyer mc930, ADK TL, or about a half dozen other nice mics in that price range.

[pwig]

i am really interested in advice on a set of mics to purchase. i can spend $500-$750 and would be running into a sony dat deck or a microtrack.

thanks!

do you have a pre-amp to run between the mics and the recorder. If Not I'd suggest you split your budget and spend a portion of it on a pre-amp and part on mics. you copuld get a digi-mod ua-5 and soem avantone ck1s or studip project c4s and still be in your price range. if you have a pre-amp I'd look at mics like the akg460, beyer mc930, adk TL, or about a half dozen other nice mics in that price range.

no preamp...

either way, i'd like to hear what you think are other nice mics...