Become a Site Supporter and Never see Ads again!
Previous topic - Next topic
Pages: Pages1 2 3 All   Go Down

Author Topic: Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?  (Read 22,981 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline §†∑∫åµÞ≥¥

  • You can call me Steve.
  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 7,063
Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« on: February 08, 2004, 12:09:05 PM »
Anyone have opinions on how this does/would sound? I love the Apogee sound (having used the Mini-ME on a few occasions) with my mics but would like to keep a digital signal running to DAT, rather than running the Mini-MP straight into my deck. I've yet to try a Mini-MP and am hoping to borrow or rent one in the next couple of months. Any retailers out there offer equipment rentals?

Let the "burned toast" comments begin...  ;D
Logged
"Absurdity is the only reality." - FZ

LMA recordings
www.nutritionbulk.com

Offline zhianosatch

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,597
  • god-damned hippies!
Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2004, 12:13:14 PM »
I say, don't do it. You'd crap up the Mini-MP's goodness by running it through a second, not-so-hot pre in the AD-20. I think you'd be better off running the MP straight into your deck and getting a diff. AD later.
Logged

jpschust

  • Guest
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2004, 12:21:09 PM »
also the traditional apogee sound you are thinking of rarely comes from their pre's, its all about their A/D conversion.  the MMP isnt exactly that traditional apogee sound
Logged

Offline Tim

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 32,693
Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2004, 06:17:35 PM »
yeah, I used a minimp last weekend and have heard 2 different tapes made with it.... I think it sounds pretty clean. if you want that "Apogee" sound you should pickup a minime.

oh yeah and the lights on the minimp are really obnoxious!
Logged
I've had a few weird experiences and a few close brushes with total weirdness of one sort or another, but nothing that's really freaked me out or made me feel too awful about it. - Jerry Garcia

Offline nickgregory

  • Admitted Jeter Homer
  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 22,149
    • Hurricanes Insider
Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2004, 06:35:22 PM »
Quote from: Tim on February 08, 2004, 06:17:35 PM
yeah, I used a minimp last weekend and have heard 2 different tapes made with it.... I think it sounds pretty clean. if you want that "Apogee" sound you should pickup a minime.

oh yeah and the lights on the minimp are really obnoxious!

so how does the mini-mp stack up against the other suspects...V2, MP-2, Sax, etc.?  Sound, ergo's, power options...etc...inquiring minds want to know!
Logged

Offline Tim

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 32,693
Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2004, 06:43:04 PM »
ergos, well it's still got the apogee design but the knobs are much tighter than on the minime. if you're already running the minime then the ergo's won't be an issue.

It runs off of 6v which is nice.

I only listened to a bit of a STS9 show and the opening Ozomatli set (I used it only for the ozo set) and I think it sounds very clean but I'd be totally talking out of my ass if I said much more than that.

Adam gave it quite a workover the past few weeks so I'd bet he'll offer up some opinions soon. Paging Mr. Nizzle!
Logged
I've had a few weird experiences and a few close brushes with total weirdness of one sort or another, but nothing that's really freaked me out or made me feel too awful about it. - Jerry Garcia

Offline Nick Culbreth

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,056
Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2004, 06:43:06 PM »
i think you'd be best going for a used minime, which probably wouldn't be too much more expensive than the mmp > ad-20 combo.
Logged

Offline nickgregory

  • Admitted Jeter Homer
  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 22,149
    • Hurricanes Insider
Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2004, 06:45:25 PM »
good info..thanks...just interested....it doesnt seem that anyone is really jumping out from a taping user perspective to get this box...
Logged

Offline Tim

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 32,693
Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2004, 06:50:03 PM »
Adam and Daryan are the only two people that I've heard of using the box.
Logged
I've had a few weird experiences and a few close brushes with total weirdness of one sort or another, but nothing that's really freaked me out or made me feel too awful about it. - Jerry Garcia

Offline §†∑∫åµÞ≥¥

  • You can call me Steve.
  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 7,063
Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2004, 07:22:04 PM »
Quote from: nmculbreth on February 08, 2004, 06:43:06 PM
i think you'd be best going for a used minime, which probably wouldn't be too much more expensive than the mmp > ad-20 combo.

I have an AD-20 so I figured buying an MP would be cheaper than a ME. FWIW though, I really like the recordings I've made with 463 (Jim Williams mod) > Mini-Me, but was primarily wondering if there's a big difference in sound between the MP and the ME. Thanks for the input.
Logged
"Absurdity is the only reality." - FZ

LMA recordings
www.nutritionbulk.com

Offline Tim

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 32,693
Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2004, 07:49:08 PM »
huge difference.

sell the ad20 and you can get a used minime for cheaper than a minimp (which you will surely have to buy new)
Logged
I've had a few weird experiences and a few close brushes with total weirdness of one sort or another, but nothing that's really freaked me out or made me feel too awful about it. - Jerry Garcia

Offline nickgregory

  • Admitted Jeter Homer
  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 22,149
    • Hurricanes Insider
Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2004, 07:55:34 PM »
Quote from: Tim on February 08, 2004, 07:49:08 PM
huge difference.

sell the ad20 and you can get a used minime for cheaper than a minimp (which you will surely have to buy new)

hell, I have seen a couple go for $850-$950 (the minime that is) on ebay in the past month or so....
Logged

Offline Tim

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 32,693
Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2004, 08:00:10 PM »
I sold mine for the equivalent of $950 (modsbm-1 estimated at $550+$400 cash).

when/if I buy another one it will be for around $900/950.... definitely not more.
Logged
I've had a few weird experiences and a few close brushes with total weirdness of one sort or another, but nothing that's really freaked me out or made me feel too awful about it. - Jerry Garcia

Offline super-phat-al

  • Vulture Shit, heard of it?
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,641
  • I am a real American
Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2004, 08:32:43 PM »
I wouldn't run this because it would be 2 pre's.  As far as i know you can't bypass the pre in the AD-20.  If you really want to run the mini-mp pick yourself up a GP ADC-20.
Logged

Offline jlykos

  • Trade Count: (6)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,337
  • Don't sweat the technique
Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2004, 11:42:43 PM »
Quote from: superphatal on February 08, 2004, 08:32:43 PM
I wouldn't run this because it would be 2 pre's.  As far as i know you can't bypass the pre in the AD-20.  If you really want to run the mini-mp pick yourself up a GP ADC-20.

Denecke sells a 16db attenuator cable that is used to negate the preamp gain in the AD-20 if you choose to run a pre in front of it.  I still would not recommend doing this.

I would investigate a modSBM way before considering running an ADC-20.  I ran both of these and much preferred the modSBM.  True, it costs a little bit more, but is well worth it.

I agree with the other opinions who have stated that the thing to do is sell the AD-20 and pick up a used MiniMe instead if you are thinking of a MiniMP > AD-20 combination.  If you are on a tight budget and want a significant upgrade, think about selling the AD-20 and go with transformers and a modSBM-1.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2004, 11:48:36 PM by jlykos »
Logged
dpa 4061 > Church Audio 9200 > Sony PCM-D50 (Moon Audio Silver Dragon v3 interconnect)

"I have no views," Mickey Melchiondo, known as Dean Ween, said in a philosophical moment. "I am way too stupid. I have no strong feelings about anything. I'm really into television and the computer. I believe everything I see on TV and read on the Internet."
Pages: Pages1 2 3 All   Go Up
Previous topic - Next topic
 

RSS | Mobile
Page created in 0.123 seconds with 40 queries.
© 2002-2026 Taperssection.com
Powered by SMF