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Sonic Studios vs. DPA 4060/61?
« on: August 25, 2003, 06:48:24 PM »
Anyone done a comparison? I'm looking to upgrade my stealth mics. Thanks.
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Re:Sonic Studios vs. DPA 4060/61?
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2003, 07:04:55 PM »
I haven't ever done a direct comparison, or used either mic myself.   But from many stealth tapes I've heard, I'd go for the 4061's over the Sonics in a heartbeat.   You get a nice full sound from the 4061's, the Sonics sound like a stealth mic to me.   Bo good to have some way to roll off some bass with the 4061's as they can be a bit bass heavy.  
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Re:Sonic Studios vs. DPA 4060/61?
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2003, 07:33:58 PM »
Pretty sure the HEB's (high end binaurals with the DPA 4060 capsules) from Core Sound include a bass roll-off/battery box. I think they retail around $900. Can anyone verify?
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Re:Sonic Studios vs. DPA 4060/61?
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2003, 09:31:34 PM »
No comparison. At all. DPA 406x series wins.
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Re:Sonic Studios vs. DPA 4060/61?
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2003, 10:28:25 PM »
DPA 4060 or 4061 in all cases in that price range for stealthing....make very good tapes given the right position (as with all mics)...the sonic mics I have heard some good tapes, but never great...4061 tapes...there are alot of really great ones out there....
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Re:Sonic Studios vs. DPA 4060/61?
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2003, 04:38:50 AM »
Quote from: Chapper on August 25, 2003, 07:04:55 PM
I haven't ever done a direct comparison, or used either mic myself.   But from many stealth tapes I've heard, I'd go for the 4061's over the Sonics in a heartbeat.   You get a nice full sound from the 4061's, the Sonics sound like a stealth mic to me.   Bo good to have some way to roll off some bass with the 4061's as they can be a bit bass heavy.  
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word about the bass. armen, any word on the BB mod for roll-off?

i have one tape Sonic studios recording that would be "great" if it wasn't run into an analog tape :(
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Re:Sonic Studios vs. DPA 4060/61?
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2003, 10:34:43 AM »
Don't the 4060/61 mics need to be run in a straight-out-from-the-ears (Healy technique) position though since they're considered "binaural"? Is it going to depend on how close I am to the stage or stacks? Will they work to stealth from a theater balcony? Thanks.
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Re:Sonic Studios vs. DPA 4060/61?
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2003, 10:38:25 AM »
Quote from: stejampzy on August 26, 2003, 10:34:43 AM
Don't the 4060/61 mics need to be run in a straight-out-from-the-ears (Healy technique) position though since they're considered "binaural"? Is it going to depend on how close I am to the stage or stacks? Will they work to stealth from a theater balcony? Thanks.

Beat you to it, Mike!  There's no such thing as binaural mics.  The mics in question are omnidirectional mics.  Binaural is a recording technique which utilizes omni mics like the DPA 4061 or other omni mics.

You can run omnis binaural, spaced omni, Jecklin disc, any config that you can think up for omni mics.
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Re:Sonic Studios vs. DPA 4060/61?
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2003, 10:40:42 AM »
Quote from: stejampzy on August 26, 2003, 10:34:43 AM
Don't the 4060/61 mics need to be run in a straight-out-from-the-ears (Healy technique) position though since they're considered "binaural"?

NO!
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Quote from: stejampzy on August 26, 2003, 10:34:43 AM
Is it going to depend on how close I am to the stage or stacks? Will they work to stealth from a theater balcony? Thanks.

Ummm... your recording technique depends on a lot of things, including those you mention.
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Re:Sonic Studios vs. DPA 4060/61?
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2003, 10:43:19 AM »
Quote from: Stealth Master Schwilly on August 26, 2003, 04:38:50 AM
Quote from: Chapper on August 25, 2003, 07:04:55 PM
I haven't ever done a direct comparison, or used either mic myself.   But from many stealth tapes I've heard, I'd go for the 4061's over the Sonics in a heartbeat.   You get a nice full sound from the 4061's, the Sonics sound like a stealth mic to me.   Bo good to have some way to roll off some bass with the 4061's as they can be a bit bass heavy.  
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word about the bass. armen, any word on the BB mod for roll-off?

Thing with the bass is, the 406xs capture all the bass at a show with no problem, where Sonic Studios and many other mics will fail because of it.
This also means that you have to watch what you run the 406xs into:
An AD-20, for example, or a recorder mic pre? Brickwall city.
Line input? It's all butter.
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Re:Sonic Studios vs. DPA 4060/61?
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2003, 10:46:31 AM »
Mannnnn...all this talk about the DPA 406x has me wanting to get a pair now!  Must...resist...urge to buy...more...gear...
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Re:Sonic Studios vs. DPA 4060/61?
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2003, 11:46:16 AM »
Do it, Brian.
It's allllll butter...
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Re:Sonic Studios vs. DPA 4060/61?
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2003, 04:33:55 PM »
hehe, but mommy promised me binaural mics for my birthday.
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Re:Sonic Studios vs. DPA 4060/61?
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2003, 04:34:42 PM »
NO MICS FOR YOU
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Re:Sonic Studios vs. DPA 4060/61?
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2003, 04:41:28 PM »
can't have what ain't real

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