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Re: Schoeps CMR (mshilarious please enter!)
« Reply #75 on: May 10, 2008, 05:00:20 PM »
well, you either need a small 9V battery box based on the simple schoeps resistor/capacitor circuit i posted earlier (in which case youd turn off phantom on the V3), or an adapter like jon is building, which decouples the phantom from the v3 and puts the proper power to the third wire going to the mic. i honestly dont really fully understand jons circuit, i dont know anyhting about FETs. but the idea is to cleanly decouple the power from the pin 1 of the v3 (phantom power is on the same wire as signal in a typical mic setup), and provide regulated power (4-9V) to the cmr, without introducing any noise. i tested the nadys in this thread, and they worked, but most circuit experts agreed that that is a cheap hack and theres a better way to do it.

one thing i forgot to ask jon, does your adapter ground pin 1 and pin 3 on the v3 side to allow for the proper termination of that balanced connection prior to connecting the unbalanced cmr?




So, Jamie can you dumb this down for me and explain what would need to go between these CMR cables and say a V3?

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Re: Schoeps CMR (mshilarious please enter!)
« Reply #76 on: May 21, 2008, 10:33:15 PM »
got em today.

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Re: Schoeps CMR (mshilarious please enter!)
« Reply #77 on: January 13, 2009, 11:25:19 AM »
Jamie,

I want to send out a big thank you for all your research on the cmr project. I could not be happier with this set-up.

http://www.archive.org/details/moon2009-01-10.SchoepsMK4

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Re: Schoeps CMR (mshilarious please enter!)
« Reply #78 on: January 13, 2009, 12:02:56 PM »
Jamie,

I want to send out a big thank you for all your research on the cmr project. I could not be happier with this set-up.

http://www.archive.org/details/moon2009-01-10.SchoepsMK4

Ron
that is a fantastic recording Ron. could you snap a few pics of your final set-up including the 620? thanks.
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Re: Schoeps CMR (mshilarious please enter!)
« Reply #79 on: January 13, 2009, 12:32:21 PM »
I made the main cables two different lengths so I could use them for undercover work if I need to without having to deal with extra cable. Always hated that with the DPA’s. The longer set of cables are not pictured. I also have different breakout cables one has rca’s and one has full size xlr’s so I can use with other pres if I want.





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Re: Schoeps CMR (mshilarious please enter!)
« Reply #80 on: January 13, 2009, 12:39:44 PM »
that is about as awesome as it gets!
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Re: Schoeps CMR (mshilarious please enter!)
« Reply #81 on: January 13, 2009, 12:51:07 PM »
very cool Ron and Jamie
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Re: Schoeps CMR (mshilarious please enter!)
« Reply #82 on: January 13, 2009, 04:03:52 PM »
holy shit that is a small versatile setup.

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Re: Schoeps CMR (mshilarious please enter!)
« Reply #83 on: January 13, 2009, 04:12:34 PM »
Hmmm....how much would it cost me to get into something like this? And I thought you still needed a preamp?
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Re: Schoeps CMR (mshilarious please enter!)
« Reply #84 on: January 15, 2009, 11:11:45 AM »
That is an awesome setup. Very neat and organized. I don't do undercover, but a setup that small would be awesome to have instead of the CMC6's. :hmmm:
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Re: Schoeps CMR (mshilarious please enter!)
« Reply #85 on: January 15, 2009, 02:39:03 PM »
I don’t do undercover very often, but it’s nice to have the option. I wanted this compact set-up mostly to get to the impact zone in the small clubs I record in, without much impact on the people around me.
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Re: Schoeps CMR (mshilarious please enter!)
« Reply #86 on: January 26, 2009, 05:56:27 AM »
I have been going back and forth on the CMRs vs an NBox and eventually decided on the Nbox due to the lower sensitivity of the CMRs (about 60% compared to CMC6 or other preamplifiers). In researching the CMR I did come across another option for powering these, the AKG B29



Only problems with this are it attenuates by -50dB, so you'd want to keep the levels on the sides all the way up. It also appears to have a 3 pin XLR out, so it takes 2 mics and mixes it down to a mono signal. But you could always use one box for each CMR or perhaps replace the 3 pin XLR out with a 4 pin and use a breakout cable.
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Re: Schoeps CMR (mshilarious please enter!)
« Reply #87 on: March 02, 2009, 03:49:40 PM »
i just got mics 3 and 4 today.

SN 133 and 126. Weird, the ones i bought last year were 134 and 135. They must not be selling a lot of these.

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Re: Schoeps CMR (mshilarious please enter!)
« Reply #88 on: March 03, 2009, 02:19:21 AM »
Hmmm....how much would it cost me to get into something like this? And I thought you still needed a preamp?

He is using the mic input on an Oade modified PMD-620. You don't need a preamp to use the mic input.

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Re: Schoeps CMR (mshilarious please enter!)
« Reply #89 on: March 04, 2009, 06:42:32 PM »
If anybody is is wondering how this sounds with the R-09HR mic input.



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