Topic: Edirol R-09HR - Part TWO

[jonbo]

This looks like it will be a nice upgrade over the h120.

[digifish_music]

In the field... 

[flintstone]

"The Kookaburra sits in the old gum tree..."

[digifish_music]

"The Kookaburra sits in the old gum tree..."

He sat anywhere he wanted really...



BTW: I have now done some considerable experimentation with the internal mics of the HR for rainforest bird sounds, will post examples shortly.

digifish

[bmr]

I have a pair of AT943s (SP-CMC-8s) and a SP-SPSB-1 battery box (with the bass roll off option)...

Simple question, if I'm looking to carry as little gear as possible, while still properly powering my mics for indie/rock concerts in anywhere from 200-person capacity clubs to arenas, do I have any chance of getting away with NOT using the battery box with the R-09HR? Or does the lack of power the R-09HR transmits to the mics completely prevent me from that sort of thing?

I guess I'm just curious as to what my options are as far as reducing my gear for low-pro jobs, and the settings I'll need to use on the R-09HR with those respective options.

It's been a long time since I've taped, largely because I didn't like the amount of gear I had to get into venues, though looking at the R-09 and realizing I could end up swapping out my UA-5 & JB3 for a battery box and the R-09 has got me itching to get back into the game. Thanks so much for any advice!

[Dede2002]

I have a pair of AT943s (SP-CMC-8s) and a SP-SPSB-1 battery box (with the bass roll off option)...

Simple question, if I'm looking to carry as little gear as possible, while still properly powering my mics for indie/rock concerts in anywhere from 200-person capacity clubs to arenas, do I have any chance of getting away with NOT using the battery box with the R-09HR? Or does the lack of power the R-09HR transmits to the mics completely prevent me from that sort of thing?

I guess I'm just curious as to what my options are as far as reducing my gear for low-pro jobs, and the settings I'll need to use on the R-09HR with those respective options.

It's been a long time since I've taped, largely because I didn't like the amount of gear I had to get into venues, though looking at the R-09 and realizing I could end up swapping out my UA-5 & JB3 for a battery box and the R-09 has got me itching to get back into the game. Thanks so much for any advice!

Hi,

I would bring the bb. I like my mics to be properly powered.
Take care

[bmr]

I have a pair of AT943s (SP-CMC-8s) and a SP-SPSB-1 battery box (with the bass roll off option)...

Simple question, if I'm looking to carry as little gear as possible, while still properly powering my mics for indie/rock concerts in anywhere from 200-person capacity clubs to arenas, do I have any chance of getting away with NOT using the battery box with the R-09HR? Or does the lack of power the R-09HR transmits to the mics completely prevent me from that sort of thing?

I guess I'm just curious as to what my options are as far as reducing my gear for low-pro jobs, and the settings I'll need to use on the R-09HR with those respective options.

It's been a long time since I've taped, largely because I didn't like the amount of gear I had to get into venues, though looking at the R-09 and realizing I could end up swapping out my UA-5 & JB3 for a battery box and the R-09 has got me itching to get back into the game. Thanks so much for any advice!

Hi,

I would bring the bb. I like my mics to be properly powered.
Take care

Well, right...

But are you saying that because of the actual necessity given the equipment specified? Or just as a general rule? Because I certainly agree with the latter, hence my question...though that doesn't dismiss the former

[war throat]

I have a pair of AT943s (SP-CMC-8s) and a SP-SPSB-1 battery box (with the bass roll off option)...

Simple question, if I'm looking to carry as little gear as possible, while still properly powering my mics for indie/rock concerts in anywhere from 200-person capacity clubs to arenas, do I have any chance of getting away with NOT using the battery box with the R-09HR? Or does the lack of power the R-09HR transmits to the mics completely prevent me from that sort of thing?

I guess I'm just curious as to what my options are as far as reducing my gear for low-pro jobs, and the settings I'll need to use on the R-09HR with those respective options.

It's been a long time since I've taped, largely because I didn't like the amount of gear I had to get into venues, though looking at the R-09 and realizing I could end up swapping out my UA-5 & JB3 for a battery box and the R-09 has got me itching to get back into the game. Thanks so much for any advice!

A couple weeks ago I ran my CA STC-11s into the mic in on my R-09HR, low gain, plug-in power on, and recorded a set of a doomish metal band in a small bar/club. It was pretty damn loud, even with earplugs, and the recording turned out just fine (It actually sounded better than the Dragonforce show I taped earlier in the night at a 1000-1500 person theater,line-in with a battery box. I accidentally had the low cut on, so that recording sounded a bit thin.) The levels were peaking above -6db and, as I recall, I was running the input at around 70. So I think in a pinch you get by without a battery box as long your mics can handle bass well.

[Falconidave]

Can anybody guess whether the Edirol R-09HR can be detected by metal detectors or not? Because we have those in our biggest concert venue They didn't react to my cheap (mostly plastic) camera that I had hidden in my pants so I'm somehow hoping the detectors detect only bigger metal items such as the Olympus LS-10

Don't know about the HR, but the R-09 reportedly doesn't set off most metal detectors or wands, probably b/c it's 95% plastic.    HR doesn't look much different.  Anyone know for sure?

I took my 09HR to work today and ran a test with a standard Garrett Wand and it failed at every location, even crotched.  Don't count on getting through just because of the high plastic content...

David

[Dede2002]

I have a pair of AT943s (SP-CMC-8s) and a SP-SPSB-1 battery box (with the bass roll off option)...

Simple question, if I'm looking to carry as little gear as possible, while still properly powering my mics for indie/rock concerts in anywhere from 200-person capacity clubs to arenas, do I have any chance of getting away with NOT using the battery box with the R-09HR? Or does the lack of power the R-09HR transmits to the mics completely prevent me from that sort of thing?

I guess I'm just curious as to what my options are as far as reducing my gear for low-pro jobs, and the settings I'll need to use on the R-09HR with those respective options.

It's been a long time since I've taped, largely because I didn't like the amount of gear I had to get into venues, though looking at the R-09 and realizing I could end up swapping out my UA-5 & JB3 for a battery box and the R-09 has got me itching to get back into the game. Thanks so much for any advice!

Hi,

I would bring the bb. I like my mics to be properly powered.
Take care

Well, right...

But are you saying that because of the actual necessity given the equipment specified? Or just as a general rule? Because I certainly agree with the latter, hence my question...though that doesn't dismiss the former

Hello,
As far as I'm concerned, there's no such thing as a general rule in this hobby . Yes. your mics will work with plug in power. But with the regular 9v bb power, you (sort of) eliminate the chances of brickwalling in a realy loud show . Plus, with a bb, you can run Line In, which is usually cleaner sounding than Mic In. A bb is not really a problem in my case: I use a very, very, very small unit (size of a Zippo lighter).
Hope that helps.Take care. 

[prof_peabody]

Can anybody guess whether the Edirol R-09HR can be detected by metal detectors or not? Because we have those in our biggest concert venue They didn't react to my cheap (mostly plastic) camera that I had hidden in my pants so I'm somehow hoping the detectors detect only bigger metal items such as the Olympus LS-10

Don't know about the HR, but the R-09 reportedly doesn't set off most metal detectors or wands, probably b/c it's 95% plastic.    HR doesn't look much different.  Anyone know for sure?

I took my 09HR to work today and ran a test with a standard Garrett Wand and it failed at every location, even crotched.  Don't count on getting through just because of the high plastic content...

David

Most brands of wands have a sensitivity setting (quite a few of the Garrett models).  If you set the sensitivity to high, it will be set off by a dime in your pocket, or sometimes even a metal fly zipper.  Most venues do not leave their wands set to high, because it would go off at almost anything.  My experience has been that the R-09 does not set off wands, unless they are set to high sensitivity. 

I'm still not sure why you care about setting off wands.  Even if it does set it off it's not hard to get it in.  Be creative, be assertive.

[gewwang]

Can anybody guess whether the Edirol R-09HR can be detected by metal detectors or not? Because we have those in our biggest concert venue They didn't react to my cheap (mostly plastic) camera that I had hidden in my pants so I'm somehow hoping the detectors detect only bigger metal items such as the Olympus LS-10

Don't know about the HR, but the R-09 reportedly doesn't set off most metal detectors or wands, probably b/c it's 95% plastic.    HR doesn't look much different.  Anyone know for sure?

I took my 09HR to work today and ran a test with a standard Garrett Wand and it failed at every location, even crotched.  Don't count on getting through just because of the high plastic content...

David

Most brands of wands have a sensitivity setting (quite a few of the Garrett models).  If you set the sensitivity to high, it will be set off by a dime in your pocket, or sometimes even a metal fly zipper.  Most venues do not leave their wands set to high, because it would go off at almost anything.  My experience has been that the R-09 does not set off wands, unless they are set to high sensitivity. 

I'm still not sure why you care about setting off wands.  Even if it does set it off it's not hard to get it in.  Be creative, be assertive.

If I can get the 722 into 3 different venues that used wands with nothing going off or questions from security, the r09hr won't be a problem.

[prof_peabody]

If I can get the 722 into 3 different venues that used wands with nothing going off or questions from security, the r09hr won't be a problem.

George - what goes on between you and the security guards in the back room is your own business.   

j/k 

Personally, I don't worry about setting off metal detectors, happens quite a bit, never had a problem getting in.

[rastasean]

Well since its your recording, you should try it both ways. 

I have a pair of AT943s (SP-CMC-8s) and a SP-SPSB-1 battery box (with the bass roll off option)...

Simple question, if I'm looking to carry as little gear as possible, while still properly powering my mics for indie/rock concerts in anywhere from 200-person capacity clubs to arenas, do I have any chance of getting away with NOT using the battery box with the R-09HR? Or does the lack of power the R-09HR transmits to the mics completely prevent me from that sort of thing?

I guess I'm just curious as to what my options are as far as reducing my gear for low-pro jobs, and the settings I'll need to use on the R-09HR with those respective options.

It's been a long time since I've taped, largely because I didn't like the amount of gear I had to get into venues, though looking at the R-09 and realizing I could end up swapping out my UA-5 & JB3 for a battery box and the R-09 has got me itching to get back into the game. Thanks so much for any advice!

[Mr.Scully]

I'm still not sure why you care about setting off wands.  Even if it does set it off it's not hard to get it in.  Be creative, be assertive.

Yes, I know how to hide the recorder that even if it sets off the alarm, they won't find it (because it's hidden... you know where ;-)) But I still prefer not to draw the attention of the security to me. Even if nobody in this country has any weapons, we still have very strict rules about taking photos or recording anything in our biggest arena (built only recently). The security is really tight for some unknown reason.

Anyway, I think I have decided and I'll buy the Edirol R-09HR.