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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part TWO
« Reply #300 on: August 24, 2008, 11:30:46 PM »
FWIW... using 2500 mah and 2700 mah batteries, when the power starts going down, watch the deck closely, as the meter will show about 1/2 and 1 song later (may be 3-4 minutes) it was off and dead

Unknown to me, my charger was acting up... the cause of the situation. The deck seems to be fine

When the deck died, the files did not close correctly.

The files will open in CDWav (confirm the pop-up messages about errors) and then save the opened file and all is good.

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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part TWO
« Reply #301 on: August 25, 2008, 04:26:06 AM »
FWIW... using 2500 mah and 2700 mah batteries, when the power starts going down, watch the deck closely, as the meter will show about 1/2 and 1 song later (may be 3-4 minutes) it was off and dead

Unknown to me, my charger was acting up... the cause of the situation. The deck seems to be fine

When the deck died, the files did not close correctly.

The files will open in CDWav (confirm the pop-up messages about errors) and then save the opened file and all is good.
When my r09hr´s batteries died, the recorded file was NOT saved at all, only 1 second of the file.
No issue for me as I know that 4h to 4h30 are the maximum with Sanyo 2700 rechargables.
I always change the rechargeables after 4 hours now.
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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part TWO
« Reply #302 on: August 25, 2008, 05:29:16 PM »
For those who want to hear the R9HR, line in level 52, with Church Audio ST9100 pre and DPA 4061's, look for the show I just posted over at Dime.  It's just my straight 24 bit 96KHZ .flac's, no compression or EQ.  As a first taping experience with the HR, it went great! I have tons of confidence in this recorder!

And, like the original R9, although some of the drum hits peak out at 0.0DB when I get the wave files onto the PC, I cannot for the life of me detect any audible clipping. So, it seems the HR does not clip easily. One possible clip in the recording is just guitar amp clipping, and not as harsh as the digital variety.
 
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=211516

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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part TWO
« Reply #303 on: August 25, 2008, 05:39:59 PM »
For those who want to hear the R9HR, line in level 52, with Church Audio ST9100 pre and DPA 4061's, look for the show I just posted over at Dime.  It's just my straight 24 bit 96KHZ .flac's, no compression or EQ.  As a first taping experience with the HR, it went great! I have tons of confidence in this recorder!

And, like the original R9, although some of the drum hits peak out at 0.0DB when I get the wave files onto the PC, I cannot for the life of me detect any audible clipping. So, it seems the HR does not clip easily. One possible clip in the recording is just guitar amp clipping, and not as harsh as the digital variety.
 
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=211516

Thanks for sharing  ;)
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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part TWO
« Reply #304 on: August 25, 2008, 09:17:19 PM »
So... anybody using 16 or 32GB cards with the R9HR yet? Any issues to report, cards to recommend etc.? I rarely record more than one or two shows at a time, before dumping to PC, but the idea of having that much space available in something the size of a postage stamp is intoxicating.  Heck, you could get almost 14 hours (just a guess) of 24/96 waves on a 32GB card ... could be good for festivals!


(remembering 128K of memory and no hard drive in the mid-80's) Thems were the days...

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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part TWO
« Reply #305 on: August 25, 2008, 09:42:56 PM »
So... anybody using 16 or 32GB cards with the R9HR yet? Any issues to report, cards to recommend etc.? I rarely record more than one or two shows at a time, before dumping to PC, but the idea of having that much space available in something the size of a postage stamp is intoxicating.  Heck, you could get almost 14 hours (just a guess) of 24/96 waves on a 32GB card ... could be good for festivals!


(remembering 128K of memory and no hard drive in the mid-80's) Thems were the days...

I've been using an A-data 16gb card with no problems.
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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part TWO
« Reply #306 on: August 25, 2008, 10:05:50 PM »
When my r09hr´s batteries died, the recorded file was NOT saved at all, only 1 second of the file.
No issue for me as I know that 4h to 4h30 are the maximum with Sanyo 2700 rechargables.
I always change the rechargeables after 4 hours now.

Sorry, you are correct, the 1st file was OK, but the 2nd file (2 times) was not.

My Thomas Distributing 2700mAh give me well over 6 hours of record time in the field... and 1 time over 7 hours when testing.


So... anybody using 16 or 32GB cards with the R9HR yet? Any issues to report, cards to recommend etc.?

I use a 16gb A-data class 6 card or 16gb and 8gb Kingston class 4 cards... also tried a 4gb transcend (from back in my R09 days) with success as well

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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part TWO
« Reply #307 on: August 25, 2008, 11:02:05 PM »
So... anybody using 16 or 32GB cards with the R9HR yet? Any issues to report, cards to recommend etc.? I rarely record more than one or two shows at a time, before dumping to PC, but the idea of having that much space available in something the size of a postage stamp is intoxicating.  Heck, you could get almost 14 hours (just a guess) of 24/96 waves on a 32GB card ... could be good for festivals!


(remembering 128K of memory and no hard drive in the mid-80's) Thems were the days...


Kingston SD cards. Way to go. ;)
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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part TWO
« Reply #308 on: August 26, 2008, 01:39:32 AM »
So... anybody using 16 or 32GB cards with the R9HR yet? Any issues to report, cards to recommend etc.? I rarely record more than one or two shows at a time, before dumping to PC, but the idea of having that much space available in something the size of a postage stamp is intoxicating.  Heck, you could get almost 14 hours (just a guess) of 24/96 waves on a 32GB card ... could be good for festivals!


(remembering 128K of memory and no hard drive in the mid-80's) Thems were the days...

I've recorded several shows at 24/96 using Transcend 16 GB with no problems.
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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part TWO
« Reply #309 on: August 26, 2008, 12:41:20 PM »
FWIW... using 2500 mah and 2700 mah batteries, when the power starts going down, watch the deck closely, as the meter will show about 1/2 and 1 song later (may be 3-4 minutes) it was off and dead

Unknown to me, my charger was acting up... the cause of the situation. The deck seems to be fine

When the deck died, the files did not close correctly.

The files will open in CDWav (confirm the pop-up messages about errors) and then save the opened file and all is good.
When my r09hr´s batteries died, the recorded file was NOT saved at all, only 1 second of the file.
No issue for me as I know that 4h to 4h30 are the maximum with Sanyo 2700 rechargables.
I always change the rechargeables after 4 hours now.
;)

My r09hr's batteries died on Saturday night. First time taping with it, about 4 1/2 hours on. Went from 1/4 battery to dead in the blink of an eye. The r09hr showed the file to be 1 second long, but 1.5 gb in size. So I ran that fixwav utility that a board member posted last year, and the wav file headers were cleaned up and everything looked good. I will be swapping batteries at the 4 hour mark from now on as well.
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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part TWO
« Reply #310 on: August 26, 2008, 02:52:47 PM »
My r09hr's batteries died on Saturday night. First time taping with it, about 4 1/2 hours on. Went from 1/4 battery to dead in the blink of an eye. The r09hr showed the file to be 1 second long, but 1.5 gb in size. So I ran that fixwav utility that a board member posted last year, and the wav file headers were cleaned up and everything looked good. I will be swapping batteries at the 4 hour mark from now on as well.

What bits/kHz were you recording at?

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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part TWO
« Reply #311 on: August 26, 2008, 03:17:38 PM »
FWIW... using 2500 mah and 2700 mah batteries, when the power starts going down, watch the deck closely, as the meter will show about 1/2 and 1 song later (may be 3-4 minutes) it was off and dead

Unknown to me, my charger was acting up... the cause of the situation. The deck seems to be fine

When the deck died, the files did not close correctly.

The files will open in CDWav (confirm the pop-up messages about errors) and then save the opened file and all is good.
When my r09hr´s batteries died, the recorded file was NOT saved at all, only 1 second of the file.
No issue for me as I know that 4h to 4h30 are the maximum with Sanyo 2700 rechargables.
I always change the rechargeables after 4 hours now.
;)

My r09hr's batteries died on Saturday night. First time taping with it, about 4 1/2 hours on. Went from 1/4 battery to dead in the blink of an eye. The r09hr showed the file to be 1 second long, but 1.5 gb in size. So I ran that fixwav utility that a board member posted last year, and the wav file headers were cleaned up and everything looked good. I will be swapping batteries at the 4 hour mark from now on as well.


I have older R-09s not HR's, but the built-in wave repair function that appeared in the 2nd or 3rd firmware update for the R-09 and has been there ever since works great for correcting file header problems.  Is a file repair utility included in the current R09HR firmware?  You have to scroll down on the R-09 menu to see it after selecting the file (beneath select, details, delete, rename, & whatnot).
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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part TWO
« Reply #312 on: August 26, 2008, 06:43:22 PM »
My r09hr's batteries died on Saturday night. First time taping with it, about 4 1/2 hours on. Went from 1/4 battery to dead in the blink of an eye. The r09hr showed the file to be 1 second long, but 1.5 gb in size. So I ran that fixwav utility that a board member posted last year, and the wav file headers were cleaned up and everything looked good. I will be swapping batteries at the 4 hour mark from now on as well.

What bits/kHz were you recording at?

I was recording at 24/48

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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part TWO
« Reply #313 on: August 26, 2008, 06:45:48 PM »
FWIW... using 2500 mah and 2700 mah batteries, when the power starts going down, watch the deck closely, as the meter will show about 1/2 and 1 song later (may be 3-4 minutes) it was off and dead

Unknown to me, my charger was acting up... the cause of the situation. The deck seems to be fine

When the deck died, the files did not close correctly.

The files will open in CDWav (confirm the pop-up messages about errors) and then save the opened file and all is good.
When my r09hr´s batteries died, the recorded file was NOT saved at all, only 1 second of the file.
No issue for me as I know that 4h to 4h30 are the maximum with Sanyo 2700 rechargables.
I always change the rechargeables after 4 hours now.
;)

My r09hr's batteries died on Saturday night. First time taping with it, about 4 1/2 hours on. Went from 1/4 battery to dead in the blink of an eye. The r09hr showed the file to be 1 second long, but 1.5 gb in size. So I ran that fixwav utility that a board member posted last year, and the wav file headers were cleaned up and everything looked good. I will be swapping batteries at the 4 hour mark from now on as well.


I have older R-09s not HR's, but the built-in wave repair function that appeared in the 2nd or 3rd firmware update for the R-09 and has been there ever since works great for correcting file header problems.  Is a file repair utility included in the current R09HR firmware?  You have to scroll down on the R-09 menu to see it after selecting the file (beneath select, details, delete, rename, & whatnot).

I have no idea! Wow, that would have taken some panic out of my day. :) I'll check when I get home. Thanks for the tip.


EDIT: Got home, checked out the recorder. Sure enough, "Repair" is an option. I selected the option and the file was repaired in about 1 second. It appears to be just fine. Thanks again for the tip!
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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part TWO
« Reply #314 on: August 26, 2008, 07:01:06 PM »
"When my r09hr´s batteries died, the recorded file was NOT saved"

"My r09hr's batteries died on Saturday night...I ran that fixwav utility, and the wav file headers were cleaned up and everything looked good..."

I'd like to hear from other R09HR owners about what happens when the power runs out.  It will be useful to know if the R09HR routinely loses the file or corrupts the file a the point when the battery quits.  Or maybe the R-09HR can't tell the power left in a rechargeable AA as well as it can an alkaline AA?

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