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Re: Edirol R-44 - 4 Channel Recorder (Part Tres)
« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2008, 02:44:48 AM »
I made a whole other post about this, but does anyone know what the gain is on the R44 mic preamps? I don't grok the "input level" spec., I just want to know by what factor the mic signal can be amplified, i.e. gain. Thanks!

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Re: Edirol R-44 - 4 Channel Recorder (Part Tres)
« Reply #31 on: July 24, 2008, 09:44:50 AM »
I recorded an orchestral concert with the R-44 tonight (legit recording for radio) and I have to say it worked very well.  Because no balance test was possible I had to wing it as far as levels were concerned but in the end "scored" -3dB max, using a Sennheiser MKH series MS pair, plus three spots (but of course only 2 at once!).  And plus a Zoom H2 in the middle of the orchestra in 4 channel mode which if necessary I will have fun syncing with the rest - something of an experiment!

I'll see if I can find some really loud and really quiet bits and post a one-minute sample just from the main pair.

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Re: Edirol R-44 - 4 Channel Recorder (Part Tres)
« Reply #32 on: July 24, 2008, 11:43:13 AM »
I read in previous thread that the headphone amp is high quality in this unit.  My question is does it have enough gain that you can use it during loud shows?  IE: the UA-5 headphone gain is too low for it to be heard during a rock show, is the R-44 different(louder) or will I need a headphone amp?  Thanx, kirk

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Re: Edirol R-44 - 4 Channel Recorder (Part Tres)
« Reply #33 on: July 24, 2008, 11:51:29 AM »
I have only used the headphones once, but it was plenty loud.

in other news I will be using it again for the second time tonight, as I have officially joined the team.

Oade Concert Mod R44!

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« Last Edit: July 24, 2008, 11:53:30 AM by leehookem »
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Re: Edirol R-44 - 4 Channel Recorder (Part Tres)
« Reply #34 on: July 24, 2008, 11:55:56 AM »
I have only used the headphones once, but it was plenty loud.

in other news I will be using it again for the second time tonight, as I have officially joined the team.

Oade Concert Mod R44!

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Re: Edirol R-44 - 4 Channel Recorder (Part Tres)
« Reply #35 on: July 24, 2008, 11:59:56 AM »
thanks Rick! backatcha!

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Re: Edirol R-44 - 4 Channel Recorder (Part Tres)
« Reply #36 on: July 24, 2008, 12:27:30 PM »
which card are you running Lee??
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Re: Edirol R-44 - 4 Channel Recorder (Part Tres)
« Reply #37 on: July 24, 2008, 01:15:26 PM »
Transcend.  I run 24/48 Stereo X2  no issues.

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Re: Edirol R-44 - 4 Channel Recorder (Part Tres)
« Reply #38 on: July 24, 2008, 01:22:00 PM »
I have only used the headphones once, but it was plenty loud.

in other news I will be using it again for the second time tonight, as I have officially joined the team.

Oade Concert Mod R44!

:)

Thanx!  Only days away from owning this unit!

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Re: Edirol R-44 - 4 Channel Recorder (Part Tres)
« Reply #39 on: July 24, 2008, 02:24:42 PM »
your gonna love it.  I have used a stock R44 and a modded unit once each.  mighty impressed with the both units.
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Re: Edirol R-44 - 4 Channel Recorder (Part Tres)
« Reply #40 on: July 24, 2008, 03:23:12 PM »
Transcend.  I run 24/48 Stereo X2  no issues.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208293

i got the same card.  so far so good.  i've run at 24/88.2 2x mono, 24/44.1 4x mono, and 24/44.1 2x mono.
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Re: Edirol R-44 - 4 Channel Recorder (Part Tres)
« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2008, 05:46:18 AM »
Here's a suggestion for a future firmware(?) update:

When recording to multiple files (2x mono and more) you get a folder that has the filename, and in the folder you get 1.wav and 2.wav. Now if I record many files and want to import them to protools or another DAW, there will be confusion upon many 1.wav and 2.wav files. So I suggest that the files within the folder also carry the folder's name befor the channel number in the end, such as recording001_1.wav

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Re: Edirol R-44 - 4 Channel Recorder (Part Tres)
« Reply #42 on: July 25, 2008, 07:46:38 AM »
Here's a suggestion for a future firmware(?) update:

When recording to multiple files (2x mono and more) you get a folder that has the filename, and in the folder you get 1.wav and 2.wav. Now if I record many files and want to import them to protools or another DAW, there will be confusion upon many 1.wav and 2.wav files. So I suggest that the files within the folder also carry the folder's name befor the channel number in the end, such as recording001_1.wav


i suggested this back in 2005 basically on my first day as an r4 owner.  i agree, an excellent idea!

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Re: Edirol R-44 - 4 Channel Recorder (Part Tres)
« Reply #43 on: July 25, 2008, 10:11:14 AM »
If you keep the files in their folders, doesn't that keep the DAW happy?  If it only goes by filenames and doesn't understand directories, seems like the DAW should be redesigned rather than the R-44.  Certainly I've not encountered this problem with mine.

Edit - just checked in Audition and Reaper and neither have any problem opening files with the same name from different directories.  Are you really saying Pro Tools can't cope with that?  Good grief!
« Last Edit: July 25, 2008, 10:17:27 AM by Ozpeter »

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Re: Edirol R-44 - 4 Channel Recorder (Part Tres)
« Reply #44 on: July 26, 2008, 04:43:55 PM »
Just wanted to say I stayed up 'til 3:30 reading parts 1 & 2 of this awesome thread. Getting my brain into "psychological ownership" of the R44 :o To get things going as far as actual physical ownership  ;D

I'd be very interested in good analytical comparisons of stock vs. modded versions of this unit, as per Ozpeter's comments. Especially since there seems to be little potential for an ambient/nature mod (i.e. which actually boosts the gain while keeping noise down), which would pique my interest as opposed to a "flavor" mod.

Also, any analytical evidence of the "display noise" would be of interest. Perhaps just Doug's unit had this problem?

Keep up the good discussion and good recordings!

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