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Re: CA14 vs AT853 vs AT943 (comp)
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2009, 09:26:36 AM »
The samples were:

1. AT853
2. AT943
3. CA-14

Good analysis by Brian and I would think either the 853's or the CA-14's are very acceptable and comparable. Oh those 943's  :-X  I didn't like what I heard from them to my ears.

If someone was just entering the market and interchangable caps wasn't an issue, CA-14's would be a good pick. Need caps? 853's without question.  Anyone with the slim 943 bodies could get the adapters and 853 caps, would be a nice upgrade.
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Re: CA14 vs AT853 vs AT943 (comp)
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2009, 09:33:03 AM »
I am very supprised by these results.  The 933/943 (Engineered Sound Line) are a contractor exclusive line of installation mics, the 853 (UniLine) are held in less regaurd by AT....  Kinda strange...     It must just be the capsules, because I can tell no difference between the 853 capsules on either set of bodies...

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Re: CA14 vs AT853 vs AT943 (comp)
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2009, 10:59:31 AM »
Quote from: Belexes on January 09, 2009, 09:26:36 AM
The samples were:

1. AT853
2. AT943
3. CA-14

Good analysis by Brian and I would think either the 853's or the CA-14's are very acceptable and comparable. Oh those 943's  :-X  I didn't like what I heard from them to my ears.

If someone was just entering the market and interchangable caps wasn't an issue, CA-14's would be a good pick. Need caps? 853's without question.  Anyone with the slim 943 bodies could get the adapters and 853 caps, would be a nice upgrade.

I will sell anyone that wants to buy a pair of omni ca-14 and card ca-14 at the same time a low price of $189.99 Still much cheaper then 853 :)
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Re: CA14 vs AT853 vs AT943 (comp)
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2009, 12:42:19 PM »
Quote from: Belexes on January 09, 2009, 09:26:36 AM
The samples were:

1. AT853
2. AT943
3. CA-14

Interesting...I thought that Brian was right.  I can't wait 'til my CA-14's get here!  ;D
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Re: CA14 vs AT853 vs AT943 (comp)
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2009, 12:57:26 PM »
Out of curiousity, were the AT mics lows sens modded?

Can't believe how much better the 853 caps sound over the 943's.  I assume that the 933's would likely sound similar.  Wish I'd heard this years ago when I picked up my 933's  :-[
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Re: CA14 vs AT853 vs AT943 (comp)
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2009, 01:06:39 PM »
Today, the 933 and 943 are identical.  (943 has a groove to attach a lav clip, 933 does not....)

In the past the 933 used the 853 capsules with an adpter.  Now the 933/943 have their own small caps....
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Re: CA14 vs AT853 vs AT943 (comp)
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2009, 01:16:08 PM »
Quote from: Javier Cinakowski on January 09, 2009, 01:06:39 PM
Today, the 933 and 943 are identical.  (943 has a groove to attach a lav clip, 933 does not....)

In the past the 933 used the 853 capsules with an adpter.  Now the 933/943 have their own small caps....


Thanks for that very useful info.  I'll hafta check my mics tonight and see if they have the adapter.  I bought them somewhere between 8-9 years ago and have only been really using the past year.  Unfortunately, I don't think they have the adapter and 853 caps.
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Re: CA14 vs AT853 vs AT943 (comp)
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2009, 03:24:25 PM »
These results aren't too surprising. The 853s and CAs' typically will sound very similiar, and while the 943s are good mics -and I've listened to tons of shows with the ATs- more often than not, the 853s will sound better than the 943s (the 943s always seem to sound "thinner" to me)
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Re: CA14 vs AT853 vs AT943 (comp)
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2009, 03:29:30 PM »
Quote from: nameloc01 on January 09, 2009, 03:24:25 PM
These results aren't too surprising. The 853s and CAs' typically will sound very similiar, and while the 943s are good mics -and I've listened to tons of shows with the ATs- more often than not, the 853s will sound better than the 943s (the 943s always seem to sound "thinner" to me)

Yep, the 853 are certainly warmer. We agree on something!   :)   

I bet most choir directors arn't that concerned about the low end, so i guess the 943 does just fine for them.  Perhaps the "thinner" sounds translates to more "clarity" for those folks....

Ironically the shotgun caps for the both the 943 and 853 have remarkable low end.  The frequency graphs for these caps look more like an omni than the omni!
I have some 943 shotgun recordings that have too much low end to play in my car....
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Re: CA14 vs AT853 vs AT943 (comp)
« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2009, 03:50:36 PM »
I concur. :)

Speaking of AT mics...these are gonna be my next purchase:

http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-BMC-10
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Re: CA14 vs AT853 vs AT943 (comp)
« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2009, 06:11:42 PM »
Those look like a terrific alternative to the DPA's....  I wonder if the premium price compared to the 853's is warranted because of the smaller size and/or better sound.  I hope both....
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Re: CA14 vs AT853 vs AT943 (comp)
« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2009, 08:11:43 PM »
Quote from: nameloc01 on January 09, 2009, 03:50:36 PM
I concur. :)

Speaking of AT mics...these are gonna be my next purchase:

http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-BMC-10


Wow, for that amount of money, skip that and pick up some Sennheiser mke2 omnis. Best sounding omins to my ears. Have you heard any tapes made with them, nameloc?
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Re: CA14 vs AT853 vs AT943 (comp)
« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2009, 08:14:21 PM »
Maybe, not sure of those exact mics, but all of the other Sennheiser stuff I've heard is real nice.
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Re: CA14 vs AT853 vs AT943 (comp)
« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2009, 08:43:23 PM »
Quote from: nameloc01 on January 09, 2009, 08:14:21 PM
Maybe, not sure of those exact mics, but all of the other Sennheiser stuff I've heard is real nice.

Don't know if you can download torrents or not, but check this tape out if you can as a sample:
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=516267

/hijack over  ;)
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Re: CA14 vs AT853 vs AT943 (comp)
« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2009, 09:07:35 PM »
Quote from: Javier Cinakowski on January 09, 2009, 06:11:42 PM
Those look like a terrific alternative to the DPA's....  I wonder if the premium price compared to the 853's is warranted because of the smaller size and/or better sound.  I hope both....
I had an actor overload one of these mics with his voice, Not sure how well they would be suited for live recordings.
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