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tascam HS-P82
« on: October 03, 2009, 08:09:41 AM »
Tascam
HS-P82 Portable Recorder

The HS-P82 ($4,999) from Tascam (www.tascam.com) is a high-quality, 8-
track digital field recorder for music, TV and film production.
Features include eight mic preamps, XLR inputs, eight AES/EBU inputs
and outputs (DB-25 connector), and recording with timecode up to 24-
bit/96kHz (8-track) or 4-track at 24-bit/192kHz. In addition to the
eight independent channels, a stereo mix can also be recorded for a
total of 10 channels. The unit has no moving parts, using dual Compact
Flash slots for recording with backup. The HS-P82 is housed in an
aluminum chassis with a TFT color touchscreen. Power options include
AA batteries (x10), NP type, AC adapter, external DC input and
optional V-mount adaptor for Endura batteries.

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2009, 11:03:55 AM »
Nice!  I wonder what the street price for this will be!
 
If this info turns out to be acurate, it looks like their is some hard competition to the 788t and sx-r4
 
 
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2009, 10:24:32 PM »
my prediction is $4250 after 6 mos.

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2009, 02:30:19 PM »
my prediction is $4250 after 6 mos.
i predict best seller :-)
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2009, 11:09:37 PM »
Might have to ditch the 744 for this one if it proves itself. Wonder how nice the a to d and pres stack up to SD

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2009, 06:29:19 PM »
Buddy of mine @ Tascam Canadia sent this to me this morning...

http://www.tascam.com/products/hs-p82;9,11,3807,16.html

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2009, 08:02:10 PM »
Hell of a patching deck....LOL

Just think you could patch from four different people at once...


Wonder if you could stealth with this......?

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2009, 12:27:13 AM »
Too bad they're using a DB-25 connector for the digital inputs and outputs.  No way to make a small dongle for that one.  I wish they had made the them as BNC connectors like the SD boxes.


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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2009, 03:39:00 PM »
Too bad they're using a DB-25 connector for the digital inputs and outputs.  No way to make a small dongle for that one.  I wish they had made the them as BNC connectors like the SD boxes.

I don't think it would be too hard to make a stubby DB-25 connector for a couple of channels and I doubt most people looking to purchase this unit would be running external AD's (unless they where using a external digital mixer/console).
 
I wonder if they will ever offer AES-42 support:
 - Sampling rate converter on each AES/EBU input  - I wonder if this can be turned off?
 
Looks like they are trying to offer a cheaper alternative to the Deva (with the touch screen, etc).
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2010, 03:57:24 PM »
has anyone run one of these yet?

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2011, 03:49:42 PM »
bump. I should have one in my hands in the next few days. will post pics.

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2011, 05:59:28 PM »
bump. I should have one in my hands in the next few days. will post pics.

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2011, 10:38:59 AM »
Louie, what do you plan on powering it with?

I assume that this being a much-higher-end deck than the DR-680, it probably has a more tolerant power input, and better available solutions, than that deck.  But nonetheless I am curious.

Assuming it can retail in the low $4000s, that brings it down to $500/channel, or only 2x as much as an R-44, for a much bigger feature set.. hmmmmmm...
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2011, 01:12:50 PM »
a 153 Watt Hour battery from bixnet for only $200  http://www.bixnet.com/unpowbat.html

153Wh divided by the draw of p82 which is 18W = 8.5hours x 70% efficiency = 5.95hours

If I am going to tape more than 6 hours, I am going to plug in.
 
edit: plus it has an internal np-1 style battery sled for 10 x AA's. I bought some 3800mA ones on ebay plus a ten slot charger. So I will have the AA's in there as back up.

1.2V x 10 = 12V x 3.8A = 45.6Watts divided by 18Watthours = 2.53hours x 70% efficiency = 1.77hrs extra

so I will have 7.723 hours of runtime on battery power
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2011, 11:23:01 PM »
Here we go! In a matter of 30 minutes I have figured out most of the features we would use.

- Easily engage 1 or all 8 channels for recording and 48V
- Records a stereo mix to channels 9-10
- You can pan and add/lower gain to each channel of mix
- You can add limiting and selectable frequency roll off to each channel.
- Size, while it is not the size of SD it is still very manageable.
- It has an internal 10 x AA sled which gives you back up for over an hour
- It has two DC connector inputs. I opted to use the 4pin xlr.
- Records to 1 or 2 compact flash cards. 32gb would give you 7.5hrs. So if you want to give your buddy(or a client) a copy of the show you can just hand him off the compact flash.
- 25pin dsub connection which allows for 8 digital in/outs
- Metering is alsum. You can set the your reference level bar at negative 9, 14, 16, 18, 20.
- You can set the peak hold, how long it holds for, the peak db level, and choose whether or not to use the reference level.
- You can enter what kind of voltage battery you are using so that that the meter can accurately read the remaining power.
- the switch from AC power to internals or DC power to internals was flawless (I tried disconnecting)
- You can lock sections of the face instead of the whole thing at once.





Inside the AR-P82. the main compartment holds the HS-P82 and the outside pocket for it holds the 8 channel snake. The AR-P82 comes with an RM-Multi Extreme which is the largest of the rm multi series and has an outside pocket of its own. The RM-Multi main compartment houses the Bixnet BP160 (153 Wh) Battery, Schoeps bodies. I only have two in there now but it could easily hold 4 wrapped in pipe insulation. The outermost pocket holds a plastic container which holds the mics.


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full access to all the 8 xlr ins and stereo out via xlr on 9-10


you can protect the connections by velcro'ing the sleeve round the 8 channel snake

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« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2011, 06:02:11 AM »
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2011, 10:06:13 AM »
Automatic saves or is it like the 680?  I am very jealous.  I've looked and looked at those but just could not handle the price.  Looking good!

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« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2011, 12:25:42 PM »
Does the dual CF card offer other 'modes' of operation besides dual recording? For example, could you only have it write to one card at a time for twice the recording time? Fi so, are they hot swappable? Do they have to be the same brand/size? I should probably just RTFM.

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2011, 02:03:17 PM »
Does the dual CF card offer other 'modes' of operation besides dual recording? For example, could you only have it write to one card at a time for twice the recording time? Fi so, are they hot swappable? Do they have to be the same brand/size? I should probably just RTFM.

you can choose the drive to record to. not sure if you can hot swap while you are rolling.

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2011, 07:54:38 PM »
Two of them can be linked together and they are now $3500!

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2011, 08:19:15 PM »
Contact for that pricing.

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« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2011, 08:19:36 AM »
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2011, 09:27:43 AM »
Can you playback any tracks as you're recording? How many tracks does it have?   NO.


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The HS-P82 is a multi-channel recorder, not a multi-track recorder. It doesn’t over-dub.
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2011, 09:35:26 AM »
records 10 channels. 9-10 are a stereo mix of 1-8

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« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2011, 10:22:49 AM »
records 10 channels. 9-10 are a stereo mix of 1-8

Isn't channel synonymous with input? So eight inputs mixed down to the stereo mix? What I would like to know is if there is a way tor record on input 1 for example and have tracks 2,5,7 playing back while recording on input one.

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2011, 12:08:05 PM »
read the owners manual

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« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2011, 03:58:14 PM »
Two of them can be linked together and they are now $3500!

Price is only good till the end of this month!
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« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2011, 10:13:56 PM »
What happens at the end of the month?  Do they really think they can jump the price from $3500 to $5000 and still move these units?    I think there is a reason the price was lowered.   If you know more about this, please share.   My experience in the past has been that when a price is reduced this much, it means that a new product is coming out, or it simply cannot sell for the higher price.  THANKS very much.


Two of them can be linked together and they are now $3500!

Price is only good till the end of this month!

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2011, 12:11:18 PM »
Here is a sample from Dr. Dog at Tipitinas on Thursday night. I basically just dialed in the stereo mix by backing the onstage mics and panning the SBD and mic. I did not use the limiter or roll off. Mixed using etymotic HF5 in ear monitors. quite frankly, I am very pleased with the quality of the pres and the A>D. Ultimately I would like to cut down on my processing time by being able to dial in a listenable mix at the show. Of course If I get home and don't like it, I have all the source files.

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« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2011, 05:21:00 PM »
Here is a sample from Dr. Dog at Tipitinas on Thursday night. I basically just dialed in the stereo mix by backing the onstage mics and panning the SBD and mic. I did not use the limiter or roll off. Mixed using etymotic HF5 in ear monitors. quite frankly, I am very pleased with the quality of the pres and the A>D. Ultimately I would like to cut down on my processing time by being able to dial in a listenable mix at the show. Of course If I get home and don't like it, I have all the source files.

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 I am really interested in the pre's in this unit.... If you have any time, could you use your schoeps and do a comparison with the pre's in your SD 744 if possible? 
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2011, 08:44:14 PM »
Pretty sure he sold his 744
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« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2011, 10:39:00 AM »
yep. 744 is long gone. Love this unit and it feature set.

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« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2011, 07:44:41 AM »

Thanks for the info Louie!

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2011, 09:07:21 PM »
anybody else grab one of these?

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« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2011, 01:15:14 AM »
anybody else grab one of these?

Saving up now, I plan on it by April 2012
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #36 on: December 28, 2011, 10:53:46 AM »
anybody else grab one of these?

actually if I get my way I will own 2 of these units.

I want to start my own record company,lol..

at the very least they will make a awesome 16 track bit bucket.
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2012, 08:56:03 AM »
I wonder how much better the pre's are with this vs the DR-680...  $4,000 better?

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2012, 12:27:44 PM »
I wonder how much better the pre's are with this vs the DR-680...  $4,000 better?

What does that mean? the p82 is 3500.00

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2012, 05:30:38 PM »
the pres and A>D are waaaaay better than the 680. It is a noticeable difference. Plus the mixer section of the recorder is gold. I can't stop talking about how easy it is to use.

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2012, 08:24:06 PM »
I wonder how much better the pre's are with this vs the DR-680...  $4,000 better?

Actually...yes.

Got a chance to listen to some of Louie's recent work over the New Year's weekend and I have to say I nearly abandoned my business plan and rushed out to get one!  Smooth, warm, detailed, all kinds of positives.  The machine is a beast, but if you're rocking 8 channels you probably aren't too concerned with a small footprint anyway...
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« Reply #41 on: January 10, 2012, 10:56:55 AM »
I want to listen too. :)
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #42 on: January 10, 2012, 03:32:57 PM »
No need to run v3 or Mico with this machine, it is the best all in one one I've heard. The touch screen mixer section is really awesome. awesome.

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #43 on: January 11, 2012, 12:03:55 AM »
Seems like a killer recorder/all in one ;D I need to hear this puppy now :)
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #44 on: January 11, 2012, 07:30:08 PM »
The add-on faders are cool too...

http://tascam.com/product/rc-f82/


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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #45 on: January 11, 2012, 07:53:20 PM »
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #46 on: January 11, 2012, 10:12:47 PM »
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« Reply #47 on: January 11, 2012, 10:31:20 PM »
NICE, thanks for that link bro :)
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #48 on: July 09, 2012, 03:03:59 PM »
ttt

Mine is on order as of last Tuesday. I highly recommend dealing with Justin at Pro-Sound. Contact me if you need his contact information. He provides free shipping to TS members.
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #49 on: July 09, 2012, 03:39:07 PM »
nice!

I have just started playing around with mine and the menu's and touchscreen make the interface very intuitive.

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #50 on: July 09, 2012, 04:06:26 PM »
nice!

I have just started playing around with mine and the menu's and touchscreen make the interface very intuitive.

Louie - Did you take off the legs on yours?

what are you powering yours with?
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #51 on: July 09, 2012, 04:37:42 PM »
I have an old skool electrovaya PowerPad 160 that I have used since 2002 - I am planning on using it as the hs-p82 handles 10-16V (the battery outputs 15.5V)

I have some other high capacity batteries that should work as well (i.e. BatteryGeek 10-14-88, Tekkeon mp3400)

I will be using a Tube PS on a seperate Battery and an EAA PSP-2 on internal batteries or a seperate external.  I won't be using the internal 48V phantom and only plan on running 4 channels with internal pre's - anything else will use external pre or be a SBoard feed.

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #52 on: July 09, 2012, 04:40:59 PM »
I have an old skool electrovaya PowerPad 160 that I have used since 2002 - I am planning on using it as the hs-p82 handles 10-16V (the battery outputs 15.5V)

I have some other high capacity batteries that should work as well (i.e. BatteryGeek 10-14-88, Tekkeon mp3400)

I will be using a Tube PS on a seperate Battery and an EAA PSP-2 on internal batteries or a seperate external.  I won't be using the internal 48V phantom and only plan on running 4 channels with internal pre's - anything else will use external pre or be a SBoard feed.

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i did not realize the 10-14-88 would work with it. Just need to have a cable made now.
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #53 on: July 09, 2012, 04:50:34 PM »
So you going to be rocking this out next year for Jazzfest Trey? We need to work together more next year and I can run a cf card and take a master too.  ;) 
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #54 on: July 09, 2012, 04:55:49 PM »
You can also run it off AA's with the included sled or use pro 14.8v lion np batteries internally the manual gives some run times using both.

http://www.adorama.com/SXNPL60.html

You'll need a charger as well and probably want 2 batteries.

I will probably pick up 10 AAs  at somepoint to use as a backup source.
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #55 on: July 09, 2012, 04:58:55 PM »
So you going to be rocking this out next year for Jazzfest Trey? We need to work together more next year and I can run a cf card and take a master too.  ;)

I plan on it.
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #56 on: July 10, 2012, 01:32:53 PM »
Louie - Do you have a screen protector on yours?  The manual said you shouldn't but I was wondering if it would work anyways as it seems a little unprotected without one.
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #57 on: July 10, 2012, 02:17:01 PM »
no screen protector needed.

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #58 on: July 10, 2012, 02:19:20 PM »
You can also run it off AA's with the included sled or use pro 14.8v lion np batteries internally the manual gives some run times using both.

http://www.adorama.com/SXNPL60.html

You'll need a charger as well and probably want 2 batteries.

I will probably pick up 10 AAs  at somepoint to use as a backup source.
the AAs won't hold it but for maybe 1hr. as far as the NP-1 batts they are way too expensive and they are only 60watt hour for $154 + charger for $200. the BP-160 154watt hour  external battery for $199 is the way to go for powering.

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #59 on: July 10, 2012, 02:35:30 PM »
Louie,  Does the P82 do automatic saving?  IE: if it loses power will the file be there or is it lost like the 680?  Just wondering.  It's one of my biggest beefs with the 680

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #60 on: July 10, 2012, 04:34:12 PM »
the AAs won't hold it but for maybe 1hr. as far as the NP-1 batts they are way too expensive and they are only 60watt hour for $154 + charger for $200. the BP-160 154watt hour  external battery for $199 is the way to go for powering.

I was thinking just to have if your battery dies at the end of the show on the AA's - or for hotswapping.  You are right on the NP batteries but I do bet they have the standard Li-ION cells in them so if you can find two dead ones you could probably revive them cheaply.

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #61 on: July 10, 2012, 04:36:39 PM »
BTW - I really like the Interface on this unit - the "routing diagrams" make it very easy to know if you have a lowcut on, phantom on, or Sample Rate conversion on, etc - much better then any other recorder I have owned!
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #62 on: July 10, 2012, 06:12:45 PM »
mine should ship tomorrow, excited face  :laugh:
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #63 on: July 10, 2012, 11:38:23 PM »
BTW - I really like the Interface on this unit - the "routing diagrams" make it very easy to know if you have a lowcut on, phantom on, or Sample Rate conversion on, etc - much better then any other recorder I have owned!

The interface is great. You get to see exactly what is going on with each channel. Sooooo easy

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #64 on: July 17, 2012, 10:48:37 PM »
make sure to download the most recent firmware. It has a killer Midside decoder for on the fly mix. I tried it out this past weekend and was really impressed with how easy it is to use.

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #65 on: July 18, 2012, 08:40:40 PM »
Thanks for the heads up!
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #66 on: July 20, 2012, 04:32:40 PM »
mine should ship tomorrow, excited face  :laugh:

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #67 on: September 01, 2012, 05:14:46 PM »
I have run the p82 three times now and I really like it.  Idiot proof recording with limitless flexibility.

Other then it's size, weight, power requirements and lack of aes-42 phantom support/digital gain it is perfect - these shortcomings are a non-issue for me and for most of us tapers as well.

The pre's are very good much better then the sd702/722/744 and would bet better then the zaxcom pres - best all in one I have used!
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #68 on: November 05, 2012, 01:35:27 PM »
I ran mine for the first time last night, after a quick lesson from Louie (thanks!). Very easy to use, will listen to results soon.
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #69 on: November 06, 2012, 01:28:52 AM »
Anyone have any information about the clock accuracy the Tascam?  I don't mean for clocking something else to it, but just in terms of its own jitter performance (i.e. clock accuracy).
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #70 on: November 06, 2012, 10:26:04 AM »
Anyone have any information about the clock accuracy the Tascam?  I don't mean for clocking something else to it, but just in terms of its own jitter performance (i.e. clock accuracy).
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I have never synced my hs-p82 with other devices so I can't commit but I would think the word clock is pretty good (personally I have not heard of issues with any pro equipment and word clock - if you need to sync externally you can). Again I don't run against external devices and need to mix back later.

Time code is a different discussion and I don't think you will find an answer here (as i don't know any one running timecode innthis hobby - it's just not needed) - you may try a pro AV forum such as jwsound.net.   I have read the time code stays in sync fine but one user claims they had a problem but others point out this could have been user error.
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #71 on: June 29, 2013, 12:24:20 AM »
What's the minimum data rate for the CF cards? I know to use type 1 cards and they need to be udma applicable, but I don't know the minimum speed. All thats on the tested list is stuff from Sandisk.
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #72 on: June 29, 2013, 03:09:11 PM »
What's the minimum data rate for the CF cards? I know to use type 1 cards and they need to be udma applicable, but I don't know the minimum speed. All thats on the tested list is stuff from Sandisk.

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #73 on: June 29, 2013, 05:08:35 PM »
What's the minimum data rate for the CF cards? I know to use type 1 cards and they need to be udma applicable, but I don't know the minimum speed. All thats on the tested list is stuff from Sandisk.
I would use 60MBps write speed at least - I don't know the Sandisk speeds but you could look this up
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« Reply #74 on: June 29, 2013, 08:58:21 PM »
What's the minimum data rate for the CF cards? I know to use type 1 cards and they need to be udma applicable, but I don't know the minimum speed. All thats on the tested list is stuff from Sandisk.
I would use 60MBps write speed at least - I don't know the Sandisk speeds but you could look this up

400x. That jives a bit with what I've seen elsewhere since asking. Thanks.
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« Reply #75 on: June 30, 2013, 12:27:37 AM »
What's the minimum data rate for the CF cards? I know to use type 1 cards and they need to be udma applicable, but I don't know the minimum speed. All thats on the tested list is stuff from Sandisk.
I would use 60MBps write speed at least - I don't know the Sandisk speeds but you could look this up

400x. That jives a bit with what I've seen elsewhere since asking. Thanks.


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« Reply #76 on: June 30, 2013, 02:17:28 AM »
What's the minimum data rate for the CF cards? I know to use type 1 cards and they need to be udma applicable, but I don't know the minimum speed. All thats on the tested list is stuff from Sandisk.
I would use 60MBps write speed at least - I don't know the Sandisk speeds but you could look this up

400x. That jives a bit with what I've seen elsewhere since asking. Thanks.


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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #77 on: June 30, 2013, 04:11:18 AM »
Louie can tell ya which battery to get, enjoy, let me know if you have questions
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« Reply #78 on: June 30, 2013, 11:16:09 AM »
Yeah, thats about $100 more than I want to spend right now, this fall has more potential there. So my stopgap is my 100wh tekkeon 3450i w/ expansion unit. That should get me around 3 hours and the AAs another hour. Realistically, thats setup and 2 sets if I'm really careful about it.
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #79 on: June 30, 2013, 09:03:07 PM »
Don't forget Batteries Plus has cheap 12V lead.  It's not the perfect solution, but it's really cheap and could get you by until you can afford the large capacity li-ions.  FWIW, a 12V 10Amp Hour SLA should run you between $30 and $35 and weighs between 4 and 5 pounds.

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #80 on: June 30, 2013, 09:13:12 PM »
I use a 12ah 12v SLA and it works great - since I only carry the hs-p82 the battery and occasionally one of my tube PS's other than mics and cables its not too bad - I am going to grab a lifepo4 SLA replacement batt soon though

You don't need external pre's or AD's with it the internals are excellent

If you need AES I/o buy a used snake off the bay as the 25pin is also AES compliant - I got a used one for $45 shipped
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« Reply #81 on: June 30, 2013, 09:24:33 PM »
You don't need external pre's or AD's with it the internals are excellent

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« Reply #82 on: June 30, 2013, 11:07:15 PM »
I use a 12ah 12v SLA and it works great - since I only carry the hs-p82 the battery and occasionally one of my tube PS's other than mics and cables its not too bad - I am going to grab a lifepo4 SLA replacement batt soon though

whats the running time on that? Looks like 5 or 6 hours if I did the math right. That actually has potential. Sure, the weight blows, but add a few more pounds and I'll just use a little suitcase wagon to get to from the car or apt to gigs anyway.  :P There is a point at which carrying weight is stupidly farcical and I think thats about 1/4th to 1/3rd of your body weight.

The unit is around 10lbs, the portabrace bag is another 4. Cables/mics are another 5lbs, that leaves a few pounds before I start walking with a 25 degree list to port or employing a sherpa.

You don't need external pre's or AD's with it the internals are excellent

lol, true, I wouldn't have bought it if the signal path wasn't good enough. There is basically zero chance of me running an external preamp to replace existing channels on a recorder with more than 6 isolated inputs or costs 4 digits. I can use my usbpre2 as a clock sync with it and daisy chain another 2 or 4 if I need the extras, but starting with 8 should suffice on all but 2 of the bands I'm targeting with this.

You don't need external pre's or AD's with it the internals are excellent

So tempted. 

Do you need the extra channels or is that just gear lust? I wanted the channels; I can easily think of occasions where I'll run 6-8, and a couple where I'll want to gang another recorder to it for 9+ and figured I only needed to haul the gear to/from, but that space wouldn't be an issue during the gig. For those occasions, I'm keeping my usbpre2>pcm-d50 run-n-gun setup.

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« Reply #83 on: July 01, 2013, 08:27:20 AM »
Do you need the extra channels or is that just gear lust? I wanted the channels; I can easily think of occasions where I'll run 6-8,

Oh hell, I'd never need all the channels, so gear lust for sure.  I'm a hobbyist, so any gear purchase is a result of gear lust. 

That said, the logic goes that it's all about the sound and when a unit provides 'the sound' in a new all-in-one that comes in around the ballpark of a used 744, while eliminating the need to carry all the extras, well then the extra channels are just along for the ride.  It would be nice if Tascam would put out a 4-channel version of the HS-P82. 

So that's the temptation for me since this is the first all-in-one that I'd care to own that is both affordable and has the sound. 

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« Reply #84 on: July 01, 2013, 08:47:38 AM »
So that's the temptation for me since this is the first all-in-one that I'd care to own that is both affordable and has the sound.

fair enough. I live close enough to walk to a lot of places and typically walk a couple blocks to get to the car and again from the car to a venue so I've never been one to lug a ton of junk around.

I'm still a hobbyest, but I'll admit I'm pushing the edge of that envelope. The fishing analogy still fits; I'm still fishing, but now I'm working up to a yacht and a fish finder for deep sea adventures.
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« Reply #85 on: July 01, 2013, 09:02:00 AM »
fair enough. I live close enough to walk to a lot of places and typically walk a couple blocks to get to the car and again from the car to a venue so I've never been one to lug a ton of junk around.

For festival days when I need lots of battery power, Bean can barely lift my bag it's so heavy (I'm 6'3" and close to 300...Bean's quite a bit less than me :) ).  I have a big bag and carry alot of lead.  By the end of a festival weekend, bag carrying fatigue is a real issue for me, but I'd rather 'suffer' over the weekend and come home with the goods than not...it's a conscious choice.

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« Reply #86 on: July 01, 2013, 09:53:27 AM »
fair enough. I live close enough to walk to a lot of places and typically walk a couple blocks to get to the car and again from the car to a venue so I've never been one to lug a ton of junk around.

For festival days when I need lots of battery power, Bean can barely lift my bag it's so heavy (I'm 6'3" and close to 300...Bean's quite a bit less than me :) ).  I have a big bag and carry alot of lead.  By the end of a festival weekend, bag carrying fatigue is a real issue for me, but I'd rather 'suffer' over the weekend and come home with the goods than not...it's a conscious choice.

Makes sense. And from what I remember, I'm less than Bean.

We'll see, it should arrive tail end of this week.
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #87 on: July 01, 2013, 12:09:10 PM »
I use at least 6 usually b/c I am grabbing a pair of mics plus 4 subgroups and then two extra channels for whatever I want more of in my mix. The mixing feature is what sold me on this rig. It is so easy to just dial in a mix and not have to go back and spend hours remixing. The midside mixing feature is a real plus too. I could go on here or you could just go back and read the thread in the Recorders forum.

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« Reply #88 on: July 01, 2013, 12:12:43 PM »
I use at least 6 usually b/c I am grabbing a pair of mics plus 4 subgroups and then two extra channels for whatever I want more of in my mix. The mixing feature is what sold me on this rig. It is so easy to just dial in a mix and not have to go back and spend hours remixing. The midside mixing feature is a real plus too. I could go on here or you could just go back and read the thread in the Recorders forum.

How do you know ahead of time what mix to dial in?

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« Reply #89 on: July 01, 2013, 12:50:31 PM »
I reset my mixer screen before every show and then adjust once I have all my channel assignments.

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« Reply #90 on: July 01, 2013, 03:51:19 PM »
fair enough. I live close enough to walk to a lot of places and typically walk a couple blocks to get to the car and again from the car to a venue so I've never been one to lug a ton of junk around.

For festival days when I need lots of battery power, Bean can barely lift my bag it's so heavy (I'm 6'3" and close to 300...Bean's quite a bit less than me :) ).  I have a big bag and carry alot of lead.  By the end of a festival weekend, bag carrying fatigue is a real issue for me, but I'd rather 'suffer' over the weekend and come home with the goods than not...it's a conscious choice.

Makes sense. And from what I remember, I'm less than Bean.

We'll see, it should arrive tail end of this week.

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« Reply #91 on: July 02, 2013, 06:24:12 PM »
You don't need external pre's or AD's with it the internals are excellent

So tempted.

As you should be. I was a "take this oade m148 out of my cold dead hands" tonedeaf you have some great preamps and I really really planned to use my m148, mp2, portico and lemosax in front of the hsp82. But I just didn't do it consistently. In some cases a pre may have changed the sound to my liking, but not enough times to warrant keeing any or all of those preamps.
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« Reply #92 on: July 03, 2013, 12:21:55 AM »
You don't need external pre's or AD's with it the internals are excellent

So tempted.

As you should be. I was a "take this oade m148 out of my cold dead hands" tonedeaf you have some great preamps and I really really planned to use my m148, mp2, portico and lemosax in front of the hsp82. But I just didn't do it consistently. In some cases a pre may have changed the sound to my liking, but not enough times to warrant keeing any or all of those preamps.

Where did the LemoSax end up if you dont mind my asking? I feel ya Trey. When I got my SD722 new in early 2006, I ran 480>v3/v2/sax/m148, and ditched them all to run 480>SD722 ;) I know you folks with higher end preamps than I do probably say "BULLSHIT" about this, but I honestly 100% think my Schoeps>LB[OT] sound is just as good sounding as any other preamp out there, with MAYBE the exception of the PSP2 and VMS02ib. I will eventually own a vms02ib or vms5u, but for now and for the $$, I think Schoeps>LB[OT] is as good as it gets, for a small 2 channel preamp.

However, the last few recordings Trey sent me that are mk41>HSP-82 sound KILLER. Like I always say, its a shame I dont run 4+ channels in just one spot, because id seriously contemplate getting an HSP-82, thats how impressed I am by its sound :) 8)
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« Reply #93 on: July 03, 2013, 03:08:44 PM »
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« Reply #94 on: July 06, 2013, 10:18:05 AM »
Kevin D. has the lemo

Can we see a picture of that thing in a bag?
Or set up would even be better.

I already carry 2 gear bags and one stand bag. Then if running cable or need long runs bring a plastic bin with all my cables...I don't weigh much. That is probably half my body weight...
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« Reply #95 on: July 06, 2013, 01:14:42 PM »
Kevin D. has the lemo

Can we see a picture of that thing in a bag?
Or set up would even be better.

I already carry 2 gear bags and one stand bag. Then if running cable or need long runs bring a plastic bin with all my cables...I don't weigh much. That is probably half my body weight...

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« Reply #96 on: July 06, 2013, 02:44:17 PM »
i got the portabrace AR bag for the p82 yesterday. I've come to the conclusion that I need to work out at a feverish pace this weekend if I want to carry this thing loaded by next Saturday...  :o  :'(
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« Reply #97 on: July 06, 2013, 03:25:38 PM »
i got the portabrace AR bag for the p82 yesterday. I've come to the conclusion that I need to work out at a feverish pace this weekend if I want to carry this thing loaded by next Saturday...  :o  :'(

Yeah it's looks heavy as a tank. Congrats bro!
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« Reply #98 on: July 07, 2013, 05:36:20 PM »
- It has two DC connector inputs. I opted to use the 4pin xlr.

Did you have to make a custom cable to connect your battery? If so, did you make it, did Ted or someone else?
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« Reply #99 on: July 08, 2013, 04:52:21 PM »
its a 4pin xlr power connector. nothing fancy. can't remember who built mine. the pin assignments for the connector are on the side of the p82

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« Reply #100 on: July 09, 2013, 04:24:21 PM »
showed up today, to be fair, it's not as big/heavy as I expected, but it's close. As Louie points out earlier; 30 minutes with it and you basically figured everything out. I need to read up on the file folder structure bit some more and I need to write a cheat sheet for how to enable P48 and renaming tracks (if I go that route, may just carry a pen/paper like I did before). Neither of those are in the places I would expect to find them, but it's not a big issue.

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Top folder, Project = Date (doable)
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That way I can create all of my meta data stuff at home, then show up and load the project and hit record instead of typing it there. Come home and I'm set.
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« Reply #101 on: July 10, 2013, 06:24:29 AM »
^ Unless you cant carry a small bag of groceries in from the car, heavy as a tank seemed a bit of an exaggeration.  3.6 kg is 8 pounds.  That's not nothing, but i personally don't see any problem with the weight...caveat already stated that I'm a big guy.

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« Reply #102 on: July 11, 2013, 01:43:01 PM »
^ Unless you cant carry a small bag of groceries in from the car, heavy as a tank seemed a bit of an exaggeration.  3.6 kg is 8 pounds.  That's not nothing, but i personally don't see any problem with the weight...caveat already stated that I'm a big guy.

even more simple - its like carrying a gallon of milk.

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« Reply #103 on: July 11, 2013, 01:53:54 PM »
if you're just schlepping the recorder sure. add the portabrace bag and without battery or anything else is 12lbs. Battery is another 4, cables, 5 or 6 mics, 4 or 5 clamps and other hardware and I'm looking at around 25-30lbs for all of that stuff. That's 1/4th of my body weight in just the bag, and I'm not just walking out the door and to my car in the drive way, I live in town. Its very doable, but that mildly sucks, thats all.
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« Reply #104 on: July 12, 2013, 12:39:18 AM »
if you're just schlepping the recorder sure. add the portabrace bag and without battery or anything else is 12lbs. Battery is another 4, cables, 5 or 6 mics, 4 or 5 clamps and other hardware and I'm looking at around 25-30lbs for all of that stuff. That's 1/4th of my body weight in just the bag, and I'm not just walking out the door and to my car in the drive way, I live in town. Its very doable, but that mildly sucks, thats all.

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« Reply #105 on: July 12, 2013, 12:58:45 AM »
saturday is the maiden voyage; borrowing like 6 mics, cables, and a fuxt-ton of stuff from chris so I can run all 8 channels. Might even run 10 with the usbpre2 if I can find a cart to haul it all (it's like 6 blocks from here, I'd spend more time finding parking).  ;D

It's not bad, I think it will serve me well, and between the two of us, it should get some use.
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« Reply #106 on: July 12, 2013, 10:20:10 AM »
saturday is the maiden voyage; borrowing like 6 mics, cables, and a fuxt-ton of stuff from chris so I can run all 8 channels. Might even run 10 with the usbpre2 if I can find a cart to haul it all (it's like 6 blocks from here, I'd spend more time finding parking).  ;D

It's not bad, I think it will serve me well, and between the two of us, it should get some use.

please explain the how you plan to record 2 extra channels with the usbpre2.

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« Reply #107 on: July 12, 2013, 10:24:08 AM »
saturday is the maiden voyage; borrowing like 6 mics, cables, and a fuxt-ton of stuff from chris so I can run all 8 channels. Might even run 10 with the usbpre2 if I can find a cart to haul it all (it's like 6 blocks from here, I'd spend more time finding parking).  ;D

It's not bad, I think it will serve me well, and between the two of us, it should get some use.

please explain the how you plan to record 2 extra channels with the usbpre2.

The usbpre2 will take an incoming digital audio signal and treat it as a word-clock signal and clock against it. Set it to accept analog in on it's path setting and send the resulting ADC output to the digi-outs and take my pcm-d50. I used to do it with my 722 to run 4ch.
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« Reply #108 on: July 12, 2013, 10:30:57 AM »
saturday is the maiden voyage; borrowing like 6 mics, cables, and a fuxt-ton of stuff from chris so I can run all 8 channels. Might even run 10 with the usbpre2 if I can find a cart to haul it all (it's like 6 blocks from here, I'd spend more time finding parking).  ;D

It's not bad, I think it will serve me well, and between the two of us, it should get some use.

please explain the how you plan to record 2 extra channels with the usbpre2.

The usbpre2 will take an incoming digital audio signal and treat it as a word-clock signal and clock against it. Set it to accept analog in on it's path setting and send the resulting ADC output to the digi-outs and take my pcm-d50. I used to do it with my 722 to run 4ch.

gotcha. you are going to love the mixing feature down to stereo 2 track. I use a pair of etymotic research HF5's for isolation when dialing in the mix. I also engage all the limiters just in case.

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« Reply #109 on: July 12, 2013, 11:15:18 AM »
gotcha. you are going to love the mixing feature down to stereo 2 track. I use a pair of etymotic research HF5's for isolation when dialing in the mix. I also engage all the limiters just in case.

I'm tempted to throw the mixdown into the equation next time and just see if I can actually just get all this setup the first time. Went ahead and got the project pre-created last night so it's fire it up, turn on p48 and the limiters and go. Actually, thats why I'm shying away from using the usbpre2 this time; this is already more complex than I'm accustomed to.
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« Reply #110 on: July 14, 2013, 04:05:28 PM »
ooo, the metadata marker records are pulled in and interpreted correctly in Reaper. I can see the marker where I hit record vs the pre-record area. I need to re-read that section and see what my options are for markers now that they have actual use.
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« Reply #111 on: July 14, 2013, 04:11:57 PM »
yes - you can just hit the "mark" button during the recording and it lays down markers for post processing -  I have been doing this since I bought it to make tracking easier in post.
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« Reply #112 on: July 14, 2013, 06:26:56 PM »
yes - you can just hit the "mark" button during the recording and it lays down markers for post processing -  I have been doing this since I bought it to make tracking easier in post.

For the last couple years, I haven't had the luxury of being able to be near my recorder on a consistent basis, and last night was no exception, so it's auto-markers or bust for the foreseeable future. Still a cool feature, I don't recall that sort of stuff being in the format that Reaper will automatically interpret when I ran a 722. There's like three conditions that will auto mark I think, gotta go back and read the manual.

I also engage all the limiters just in case.

I'm glad you mentioned that as I had forgotten to engage them and then went back and turned them all on before the set started and that saved my hide on 3 of the 8 channels. One of the direct outs spazed for a second and I ran a set of cmc6 bodies and mk5s on stage (as spots in card mode) and even with the -25db pad and 0db of gain, I still engaged the limiters every now and then. Is there any way to run a line-in setting for the pad and still have p48? I tried flipping the switch to line and all signal goes to zip so I'm assuming no. Haven't done extensive testing though.
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #113 on: July 16, 2013, 01:06:37 AM »
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #114 on: August 11, 2013, 05:51:19 PM »
So when doing card mirroring, do you format both cards and create the dupe project on both? I did a quick format last time on both and wasnt able to see the former contents disappear. Did it a couple of times, had to delete the project and then do the format. What did I do wrong?

edit: it works if I just do one card and remove the other one.
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« Reply #115 on: August 13, 2013, 02:26:12 PM »
The project on the mirrored card is created automatically when you start recording.  Things get confusing if you pre-populate both cards.
Start with the 2nd card completely empty, go to your first card and start a project as if there was no 2nd card in there.

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« Reply #116 on: August 13, 2013, 03:49:47 PM »
The project on the mirrored card is created automatically when you start recording.  Things get confusing if you pre-populate both cards.
Start with the 2nd card completely empty, go to your first card and start a project as if there was no 2nd card in there.

if I do a quick erase on the second card but don't create the project (just cancel out), then it shows the old project still there, but empty. Will this erase when I start the recording? The bummer for testing purposes is I rarely have the second card in my possession since two of us split the rig and he walks away with the extra card at the end of the night and I get it back like the day before we go out. I may borrow one of my better half's CF cards and play around with it one evening.

I've been able to create the same project on both cards and that works, but getting rid of the project seems to be my difficulty.

(oh, and I'm fairly sure I'm on firmware 1.20)
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« Reply #117 on: August 20, 2013, 08:11:58 PM »
There may be an empty/phantom project on the 2nd card from the previous recording, but when you start recording in the new project,
it will create the necessary files on the 2nd card to duplicate the project on the first (with the correct names).

I usually format the 2nd card, switch to the 1st card, turn on Mirroring, then do a format on the 1st and go straight into creating
the new project.

If you're having other problems with the contents of the 2nd CF, please contact TASCAM via the webpage and we'll go into it deeper.

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« Reply #118 on: August 20, 2013, 10:05:56 PM »
I think it's ok, I just need to retrace my steps. I suspect it's something I'm doing while setting up.

One semantic I'd like clarification on (no rush, just curious): Do people turn off mirror, format the second card, then turn it back on when formatting the primary card?
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« Reply #119 on: August 26, 2013, 09:57:22 AM »
Ok, so what did I do wrong this time?

Have both cards in, both had more than sufficient space. I create a new project, and verify that I can select it in the project screen. I see in the recording info section that I have that project "selected". I hit record and it dumps everything in the old project folders. I tried three times last night to get it to go to the new project folder, no dice.

So how do you select the new project if you still have other content on the card? I'm going to play with it tonight, but if anyone has any pointers, I'd love to know, thanks.
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« Reply #120 on: August 28, 2013, 03:01:40 PM »
I've duplicated this problem.   While testing it, I did a combination of recording a dummy file, doing a retake (to delete it) and mounting it via USB.
One of those steps clears the problem and now I'm getting the mirrored files in the expected directories.
I'll try to get a better set of work-around steps written up.

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« Reply #121 on: August 28, 2013, 03:21:22 PM »
Thanks for at least tinkering with it. I've been busy with deliverables the last couple days so I haven't had a chance to sit down myself.

edit: it's something in the mirroring. I pulled the other card tonight while doing tests and it has the current project and structure, but the file names match the mirror (which didn't have the right structure and wanted to merge projects).

It almost looks like you need to create the duplicate project on both first and not just one and let it force the other... dunno. More testing needed.
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« Reply #122 on: August 31, 2013, 12:53:28 PM »
Yep, now that I got the spare card back from my partner in crime, I was able to recreate it on the first try:

1) have a project existing on CF2.
2) create new project on CF1.
3) verify under the info screen that the new project is selected.
4) record a few seconds, then stop
5) switch the view to CF2.
6) open the project viewer. No new project, but your files/scenes are all in the old project.

Note: I'm using the same framerate/sampling settings on old/new projects. Haven't tested a mix.

So unless tascam issues a firmware fix, the work around is create the same project on both cards, or format the cards for every new project.

Edit; plot twist. Formatted CF2, created a new project on CF1 (so it now has multiple projects). When I made that new project, it did create a new one on the mirrored card, but it used the project structure from a project I didnt create. E.g. had project AAAA already on one card. Formatted the second card, created project BBBB on first card, check card2, only project AAAA exists.

Edit2: yeah, i dumps the mirrored stuff in whatever the last used project directory is for a card if it cant find the project you just created on the primary card.
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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #123 on: September 08, 2013, 03:09:13 AM »
So, after reading the HSP-82 thread in the recorder section os ts.com, and after reading Page's recent posts, this thing seems to have a pretty rough learning curve. Is that correct? If I did more SBD patches, this would be an ideal recorder. I could run mk41>LB[OT]>HSP-82 and mk4>LB[OT]>HSP-82 AND SBD>HSP-82.  I would also try just mk4/mk41>KCY>PFA>HSP-82 as well!!!

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« Reply #124 on: September 08, 2013, 11:03:27 PM »
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« Reply #125 on: September 09, 2013, 10:41:29 AM »
So, after reading the HSP-82 thread in the recorder section os ts.com, and after reading Page's recent posts, this thing seems to have a pretty rough learning curve. Is that correct?

eh, it's not bad per-se, but coming from an SD experience, it's definitely different. Mostly, just some quirks I wasn't expecting (two examples; inability to send P48 while in line level mode, how the mirroring functions over multiple projects). I spent maybe 45 minutes or an hour with the unit and had the basic settings all mapped out and stuff. The location of the P48 on/off in the mixer screen and the engage tracks for recording are the two things that I keep forgetting where they are, but thats getting better with use.
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« Reply #126 on: September 10, 2013, 04:45:26 PM »
So, after reading the HSP-82 thread in the recorder section os ts.com, and after reading Page's recent posts, this thing seems to have a pretty rough learning curve. Is that correct?

eh, it's not bad per-se, but coming from an SD experience, it's definitely different. Mostly, just some quirks I wasn't expecting (two examples; inability to send P48 while in line level mode, how the mirroring functions over multiple projects). I spent maybe 45 minutes or an hour with the unit and had the basic settings all mapped out and stuff. The location of the P48 on/off in the mixer screen and the engage tracks for recording are the two things that I keep forgetting where they are, but thats getting better with use.

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Re: tascam HS-P82
« Reply #127 on: November 06, 2019, 01:45:11 PM »
So how has this thing held up as far as value at the end of 2019? From what I can see, this is still the best value out there if you are looking for the specific set of features that it provides in its price range. I'm talking digital i/o, premium preamps, timecode, 8 channels, rudimentary metadata tagging and editing. The new pro SD units (8xx) seem like better machines, with smaller size and weight, and there's the app, but they start at $4000. A good deal on a P82 can be had for around $1000, these days. That puts it in the range of the new SD prosumer units (mixpre II), but they lack digi in (although, props to them for adding timecode). Also, one thing the P82 has that no SD unit has ever had (to my knowledge) is genlock, which comes in handy for avoiding drift on say, long concert recordings. You are slaving the audio clock to the camera(s), so you can record all day and no drift. As an alternative to genlock, you could slave the audio clock to LTC being fed from the camera (can SD devices do that?)... but that's less than ideal and doesn't allow you to be the TC master (which is usually the audio techs responsibility on set).

So is this thing still the best bang for the buck for someone doing location sound recording for medium budget films, tv, and concert video (and of course some hobby taping)? Or should I give up on digi in/genlock, and go for something like the SD MP10 II? The 32 bit float, Sony L-mount, and bluetooth app are really tugging at me.
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« Reply #128 on: November 06, 2019, 08:35:35 PM »
It has great mic pres and great audio quality. It is a little bulky.  But they can be stacked for more than 8 channels of recording.  So $1000 is an amazing price to get a new one (or a whole bunch of them for multitrack live recording.) :wink2:

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« Reply #129 on: November 07, 2019, 09:12:43 AM »
Hell of a unit...the only issue I have is the size, the bag big enough to hold it, eight pounds and a similar weight battery to power the 12w draw.

Of course for a couple of years I lugged around a Neve Portico that weighed the same with a 12w power draw...so it required a battery just as big the HS-P82...for a 2 channel pre an I still had to carry a recorder and battery for it...
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