Topic: PT: 3 - New Marantz PMD661

[tedyun]

Hi DigiGal,

I think that is the trick for why you haven't had a problem with the Mac while others (including myself) have. If you didn't create a folder for each recording, the 661 will record in the default folder, which is labeled ".fseventsd"

I think the "." in the name causes problems for the Mac OS file system.

Problem solved! (Hopefully) 

Never had a problem where my Mac doesn't see 661 files. 

FWIW: I always format my cards in the 661 and create a folder for each show I have lined up. With this method I record each show in it's respective folder, usually two files, one for each set.

I can verify that this method gets around the bug where the files on the SD card are not visible on Mac OS X

To reiterate, after formatting the SD card in the 661, create a new folder and select it to save the files there. This file will then be visible when you mount the SD card in Mac OS X.

I'm not home to try this, but another workaround may be to rename the folder on the SD card to something else. The default folder is something like ".fseven" and I think the "." in the name causes problems when being read in the Mac OS.

On page 59 of the 661 manual, they give instructions on how to create a new folder:

http://www.avisoft.com/PMD661.pdf

I'll be happy to help marantz out with this, but I doubt they will care.
It will be just like trying to get my Mr-1 battery replaced!

;-)

[rastasean]

I'll try this out on mine and see how linux plays with the SD card.

[tedyun]

A ha! It looks like putting "." at the beginning of a directory name hides it in Linux and Mac OS X. Because the 661 names the default directory ".fseventsd" the reason why you can't see the files when you mount it is because the directory is invisible.

So I guess it isn't really a bug. It's just not friendly to Unix based OS's

http://www.labtestproject.com/linuxcommand/make_hidden_directory_in_linux_fedora_with_mkdir_command

http://osxdaily.com/2010/05/10/create-a-hidden-folder-in-mac-os-x/

[jb63]

Thanks, cats & kittens!

Again, solving problems better than actual tech-support!
I'm still thousands of miles away from my 661 but I will try all this when I get home.

[jb63]

OK!

Problem solved! Thanks especially go to rastasean here, because in retrospect, all the stuff he was saying makes the behavior of the device make sense. (or sense, depending)

tedyun's explanation and the use of the manual, of course, is the fix. Once I was willing to make a new folder, new recordings automatically go to that.
better yet, I was able to take the 2 cards of "blank" recordings, put them in the machine, make a new folder and then MOVE MY RECORDED FILES from the ".trashes" folder to the new folder and save them.

So there you have it.

Now... Is the 8GB SDHC card the new DAT? How much for those DDS tapes vs the 8GB card today?
Can we just buy those cards like tapes and store them as masters?
I think the price is almost the same now!

Thanks to all!

[tim in jersey]

I'll try this out on mine and see how linux plays with the SD card.

Do the files not show up in Linux if you hit ctrl+h to show hidden files/folders?

[rastasean]

I'll try this out on mine and see how linux plays with the SD card.

Do the files not show up in Linux if you hit ctrl+h to show hidden files/folders?

Actually!! I took the card out of the 661 and put it in the computer and they showed up in the main directory, no hidden directory or anything. I'll see what happens when I format the card on the computer and recorder but this is definitely different behavior than before.

[DigiGal]

Okay, here's how to see the PMD661 hidden files on the SDHC card in OS X Snow Leopard. 

• Insert card into your computer or card reader hit (command) (o)

• highlight the card in the list the list that pops up

• with the card highlighted hit (command) (shift) (.>) and they will appear

• hitting (command) (shift) (.>) again will hide them again

 
You can toggle show/hide the hidden files back and forth in this manner.

[jb63]

Also good to know.

So since creating a "new folder" on the 661, every new card I put in and format in the 661 has this folder in it and records the files right into it. Also, just outside that folder is my presets file, so it must actually make another folder to keep all that inside.

Still, problem solved!

[tim in jersey]

I'll try this out on mine and see how linux plays with the SD card.

Do the files not show up in Linux if you hit ctrl+h to show hidden files/folders?

Actually!! I took the card out of the 661 and put it in the computer and they showed up in the main directory, no hidden directory or anything. I'll see what happens when I format the card on the computer and recorder but this is definitely different behavior than before.

I'm curious to hear if ctrl+h solves the "missing" files issue in Linux assuming you can reproduce the problem...

[rastasean]

I'm curious to hear if ctrl+h solves the "missing" files issue in Linux assuming you can reproduce the problem...

Take a lot at this pastebin: http://pastiebin.com/?page=p&id=5011f6b80cd7b

The only issue appears when formatting the card on the computer and then trying to use it on the recorder.

[DigiGal]

Edited previous post with new cable build...

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=139705.msg1974066#msg1974066

[EugeneF]

can anyone suggest what needs to be changed in order to make it OADE BROTHERS version 

[DigiGal]

can anyone suggest what needs to be changed in order to make it OADE BROTHERS version 

http://www.oade.com/digital_recorders/hard_disc_recorders/PMD-661MODS.html

[EugeneF]

I am trying to connect audio technica atr3350 lavalier to line-in2 input but getting low signal. Is there an adapter from 3.5mm to XLR? maybe that will improve, or I am doing something  wrong.