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Anyone familiar with these?
« on: November 29, 2010, 03:44:45 AM »
Anyone familiar with these?
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Re: Anyone familiar with these?
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2010, 04:09:14 AM »
No, but they sure are cute! I have a pair of AT2021s that are similar looking, but a little longer.

It's weird, in the photo of the mics in the case, you can see a name, model #?, but they are not there in the other pics.
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Re: Anyone familiar with these?
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2010, 05:37:55 PM »
Dropped a line to the ebay vendor.
They are called Skytronic 173.844, Chinese OEM stuff.
Looking a bit similar to Behringer C2's, but have an extra switch that Behringer doesn't.
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Re: Anyone familiar with these?
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2010, 10:42:31 PM »
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Re: Anyone familiar with these?
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2010, 03:10:52 AM »
they look like a mic I started a post on TS  of in 2008 here: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=107581.msg1435860#msg1435860
 EquationAudio CMI.103

they could be modded - perhaps?

http://www.equationaudio.com/mics/mtd-products.php?object=cmi103

http://www.frontendaudio.com/Equation-Audio-C-103-MP-Matched-Pair-p/9999-02535.htm

The response is 40-16Khz.
3/4” x 3”
(which I would guess would be = ~19-20mmX ~75-76mm)

but like I said- if they were modded - who Knows?

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Re: Anyone familiar with these?
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2010, 03:16:25 AM »
^^^^^ Ps I sure hope some TS member gets some and tries them out- and perhaps mods them they could a very sweet Low Pro mic!
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Re: Anyone familiar with these?
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2010, 04:28:39 PM »
They look a lot like these:

http://www.cadaudio.com/CM217.php
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Re: Anyone familiar with these?
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2010, 01:18:51 AM »
^^^^ I bet both the CADs and the Equationaudio's are made by the same Chinese manufacturer...
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Re: Anyone familiar with these?
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2010, 03:02:06 PM »
Interesting. They look the same, but the frequency response differs. Same housing but different capsule?
Skytronic is a brand of AVSL, official spec here:
http://avslgroup.com/en/product/173.844UK

BTW, epic quote from Equation Audio: "We don't imitate, we create . . ." (http://www.equationaudio.com/about2/)


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Re: Anyone familiar with these?
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2010, 02:02:30 AM »
Interesting. They look the same, but the frequency response differs. Same housing but different capsule?

I do not trust the technical specifications from the manufactor. There is a review at www.soundonsound.com reporting roll-off below 250 Hz and above 10 kHz. A pair is about 50 Euros with shipping. We cannot expect a miracle at that price level.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug08/articles/equationaudioalpha.htm


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Re: Anyone familiar with these?
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2010, 02:43:46 AM »
however if some one modded them - they could be  an interesting deal
vent mods - switch out some electronics etc...
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Re: Anyone familiar with these?
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2010, 02:46:23 AM »
and on the AVSL site they state:
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Frequency response    30Hz - 18kHz
  but who knows
someone should grab some and test and mod them   >:D
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Re: Anyone familiar with these?
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2010, 02:49:50 AM »
however if some one modded them - they could be  an interesting deal
vent mods - switch out some electronics etc...
I think the main mod needed is the capsule.  They likely have something like a Transsound (TSB) capsule, like the Behringer C4 and Samson C02 have.  That capsule is OK, but not great.  Something like an AT853 is probably going to sound better than these... and the size/powering is more suitable for tapers.

I think the best deal for small condensors is still something like Studio Projects C4 (used), or new maybe a pair of Behringer B5.  These are 797audio Chinese mics similar in style to the C4, and quite cheap (just over $100 new).  Both these options have gold plated capsules and reasonable electronics.

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Re: Anyone familiar with these?
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2010, 03:29:02 AM »
however if some one modded them - they could be  an interesting deal
vent mods - switch out some electronics etc...
I think the main mod needed is the capsule.  They likely have something like a Transsound (TSB) capsule, like the Behringer C4 and Samson C02 have.  That capsule is OK, but not great.  Something like an AT853 is probably going to sound better than these... and the size/powering is more suitable for tapers.

I think the best deal for small condensers is still something like Studio Projects C4 (used), or new maybe a pair of Behringer B5.  These are 797audio Chinese mics similar in style to the C4, and quite cheap (just over $100 new).  Both these options have gold plated capsules and reasonable electronics.

  Richard

sounds like a good thought
here is 797 site: http://www.797audio.com/templates/consulting_008_3/index.aspx?nodeid=104
and condensers here:  http://www.797audio.com/templates/consulting_008_3/second.aspx?nodeid=114#

a few look nice but how do you actually purchase them - a group buy?  can we get enough interest on TS to buy a number of these?

either : http://www.797audio.com/templates/consulting_008_3/second.aspx?nodeid=114&page=ContentPage&categoryid=0&contentid=414
or
http://www.797audio.com/templates/consulting_008_3/second.aspx?nodeid=114&page=ContentPage&categoryid=0&contentid=413

oh I found this: http://www.globalmediapro.com/dp/A03200/797-Audio-CR626-Condenser-Microphone/  but $322 seems very steep
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Re: Anyone familiar with these?
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2010, 04:16:34 AM »
oh I found this: http://www.globalmediapro.com/dp/A03200/797-Audio-CR626-Condenser-Microphone/  but $322 seems very steep

Yeah, this NZ web shop must have a pretty high mark-up.
Somebody reported buying this pair for $50, but that was 5 years ago:
http://homerecording.com/bbs/equipment-forums/microphones/*-best-condenser-under-%2450-*-143629/2/

There is a China based store selling these too, I mailed them for the price:
http://www.chinesedepartmentstore.com.cn/osc/product_info.php?products_id=543&country=203&QTY=1
A sales rep named Vash quoted me $230 for a pair...
« Last Edit: December 10, 2010, 10:09:11 AM by sunjan »
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