Topic: ck1x>pfa>12-48Vpreamp and bypass tinybox

[tgakidis]

Slick Louie!

[jbell]

Jon didn't do anything special to this PFA correct??  So any phantom adaptor would work?? 

[NOLAfishwater]

as long as it steps it down to the proper voltage it should be fine.

[jbell]

Do you have the CK1x>PFA>pre put together and recorded with it??

as long as it steps it down to the proper voltage it should be fine.

[NOLAfishwater]

I sent it to ted gakidis. think he taped at least one show with it. not sure where he posted it

[jbell]

I've talked to Ted and waiting to see how things go!  Thanks man

[F.O.Bean]

I've talked to Ted and waiting to see how things go!  Thanks man

Me too!

[EarlyMorningRain]

I just purchase a couple of ck1x capsules from different sources and was planning to make a setup similar to the cmr rig. Tgakidis is going to make me a set new cables with lemo connectors that terminate down to a 6pin mini xlr.

Can anyone confirm that it is possible to bypass using the Tinybox (if i wanted to) and just go:  ck1x>new lemo cables>pfa>recorder providing 12V to 48V phantom.

just to confirm, would you be then running that preamp with or without phantom power turned on? And how much is tgak charging (roughly) for said cable with lemo connector?

[leehookem]

I just purchase a couple of ck1x capsules from different sources and was planning to make a setup similar to the cmr rig. Tgakidis is going to make me a set new cables with lemo connectors that terminate down to a 6pin mini xlr.

Can anyone confirm that it is possible to bypass using the Tinybox (if i wanted to) and just go:  ck1x>new lemo cables>pfa>recorder providing 12V to 48V phantom.

just to confirm, would you be then running that preamp with or without phantom power turned on? And how much is tgak charging (roughly) for said cable with lemo connector?

I'd like to know this as well.

[rsimms3]

What ended up happening with all of this?  I picked up a Tinybox a while back thinking I would have it set up to run the CK1x caps and some AT933/AT853.  After some further research, sounds like the version of Tinybox that Ted is using runs 12v to the CK1x caps and 12v is too much for the ATs.  But based on what Richard said, a regular battery box should run the CK1x caps.  So, I have some follow up questions based on this discussion:

1. Will the CK1x caps run sufficently off of a battery box/preamp built for AT mics?
    (specifically the Tinybox or Church CA9100 preamp, I have one of each and can make cables)
2. Can I use the Audio Technica PFAs with the CK1x caps? (took two old podium mic PFAs and installed mini-xlr connectors in them)

Thanks!

[tgakidis]

Not sure about the church preamp or the PFA that you have for your 853s (questions for Chris and Jon), but Jon at Naiaint said that my 12v PFA & Tiny Box will work with my 853s and my ck_x caps.

So far I have only posted one show with ck1x > PFA > Areco  http://www.archive.org/details/dubapoc2011-11-27.ck1x-pfa-aerco.flac

[rsimms3]

Just to be clear, your Tinybox provides 12v power and Jon said it was safe with the CK1x and the 853s, correct?

I had emailed him a couple times last year, he said that Tinybox for AT mics was 8v and that the CK1x was a different set up.  I asked about 12v for the ATs but didn't hear back.  I then got distracted and didn't think about it until recently when you posted about the cheap MK46 cables.  I don't record much, these days but wanted to upgrade my gear.  I'd be happy running the CK1x in open situations with a PFA since I don't have the 460s any more. 

[tgakidis]

Just to be clear, your Tinybox provides 12v power and Jon said it was safe with the CK1x and the 853s, correct?

I had emailed him a couple times last year, he said that Tinybox for AT mics was 8v and that the CK1x was a different set up.  I asked about 12v for the ATs but didn't hear back.  I then got distracted and didn't think about it until recently when you posted about the cheap MK46 cables.  I don't record much, these days but wanted to upgrade my gear.  I'd be happy running the CK1x in open situations with a PFA since I don't have the 460s any more.

Yes, if the 853's are wired for two wire.  Here is the quote from Jon's email to me in November 2011:

On 11/23/2011 9:25 AM, Theodore Gakidis wrote:

Hey Jon,
Two quick questions for you.
1.) Can I run my AT853s off my 12v AKG Tinybox?
Yes, if they are configured to run 2-wire.

2.) What is the Pin Assignment for a 9v Tinybox (6pin) > AT853?
If I were building a tinybox for ATs (with mini-XLR connectors) it would be:
1 ground
2 signal R
3 signal L
4 ground
5 power R
6 power L

Note that would actually be balanced, so there would be signal on the power pins as well.

[rsimms3]

Interesting.  The Tinybox I have that I bought from Darktrain is a 5 pin.  Sounds like to run 12v with the ATs I would have to bridge the power/signal connectors inside my break-out cable (after upgrading my Tinybox with Jon first).  Are the CK1x caps run standard 3 wire? 

Thanks for the responses, they are very helpful.

[tgakidis]

Interesting.  The Tinybox I have that I bought from Darktrain is a 5 pin.  Sounds like to run 12v with the ATs I would have to bridge the power/signal connectors inside my break-out cable (after upgrading my Tinybox with Jon first).  Are the CK1x caps run standard 3 wire? 

Thanks for the responses, they are very helpful.

With the tiny box and PFA they are 2 wire.