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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #375 on: March 14, 2018, 10:35:20 AM »
How compare to Tascam DR680MKII, which is better to record classical concerts?

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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #376 on: March 14, 2018, 10:55:38 AM »
Via the SPDIF inputs the sound should be pretty much the same.

Using the analog inputs, the DR680 MKII will have lower input-stage noise than a stock R44, unless you pickup an Oade modded R-44, which is common around Taperssection.  Those mods are available in a few different "flavors" some of which are targeted at changing the tonality and overload characteristics for loud music and some of which are designed to lower the noise floor and increase transparency.

The other obvious difference is that the 680 has 6 analog inputs and can record from the SPDIF stereo input simultaneously to effectively record 8 channels total.  The R-44 is limited to 4 channels- either 4 analog in, or 2 analog + the SPDIF stereo input.
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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #377 on: March 14, 2018, 11:06:05 AM »
Thanks, specs of Tascam seems far better compared to Edirol, but I don't like the sound of the 680MKII, to my ears it is not so pristine as I expected.
I'm listening recordings posted, is there also a classical concert or other acoustics instruments recordings on internet to understand the tone of this recorder?

I don't like also the sound of the Zoom, to high...and Sound Devices is too expensive.

EDIT:
On ebay, in Europe, I can find only standard R44, there aren't modded units, is there a lot of difference in quality?
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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #378 on: March 14, 2018, 12:19:41 PM »
Hello, I need a multitrack recorder with SPDIF in to record chamber music concerts. Now I'm trying the Tascam DR680 MKII but I don't like his sound, so I thinking to return the Tascam and buy an used Edirol R44.
Is the Edirol R44 a good recorder? I cannot find on Internet recordings made with this device.

The R44 is a great recorder. Here are a bunch of shows recording using an R44 ---> https://archive.org/details/etree?and%5B%5D=R44

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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #379 on: March 14, 2018, 12:25:44 PM »
Thanks, but this device is standard, If I'm right.

I'll use it with a Audient Mico on the SPDIF. Buying a second external preamp will solve the noisy preamp problem? Converters with line signal are clean?

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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #380 on: March 14, 2018, 12:38:46 PM »
If you are using the digital input, all recorders sound the same.
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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #381 on: March 14, 2018, 12:40:00 PM »
If you are using the digital input, all recorders sound the same.
ok, but the other 2 (analogues) inputs?

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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #382 on: March 14, 2018, 05:36:45 PM »
I'll use it with a Audient Mico on the SPDIF.

I'm not sure that you can use the Tascam DR680 SPDIF input with the Audient Mico dig out.
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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #383 on: March 14, 2018, 05:49:13 PM »
I'll use it with a Audient Mico on the SPDIF.

I'm not sure that you can use the Tascam DR680 SPDIF input with the Audient Mico dig out.

This is true.  I also ran into issues with other digi out preamps, the sx-m32 comes to mind. 
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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #384 on: March 15, 2018, 01:24:32 PM »
My current battery system could use an upgrade any newish recommendations ? Some of the original options are no longer made..
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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #385 on: March 15, 2018, 01:48:13 PM »
I run an R-44 off of a RAV23000 which you can still get on Amazon I think.

I keep looking at ebay for the Universal DVD batteries, and have had luck in finding a few new ones for around $30 shipped.
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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #386 on: March 17, 2018, 10:41:49 AM »
I can record via SPDIF from an Audient Mico to a Tascam DR680MKII.
(It doesn't work from the Mico to a Sony D50)

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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #387 on: March 17, 2018, 11:14:01 AM »
I can record via SPDIF from an Audient Mico to a Tascam DR680MKII.
(It doesn't work from the Mico to a Sony D50)

It also doesn't work from the Mico to a Tascam DR680MK-one. Glad to hear it works for the MK-two.
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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #388 on: March 18, 2018, 06:49:00 PM »
Finally did the upgrade to firmware 1.2.1

Now I see what the fuss was all about...the metering is much better now.
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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #389 on: March 18, 2018, 09:36:49 PM »
Finally did the upgrade to firmware 1.2.1

Now I see what the fuss was all about...the metering is much better now.

Wait, what?  Is this a new update or the one that they did 5 years ago?  The meter zoom?
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