Topic: How close are the clocks on two same model Recorder's

[danny3]

I will take a shot at joining in here – I have only a basic understanding of synching, stretching, clocks and such. A friend and fellow member here has explained some of this to me, but I don’t have any real world experience other than what I will detail below as I feel pertains to the subject at hand.

I am nowhere near as knowledgeable as you all as I have only been recording since last December. The threads here (which I avidly read) have helped me greatly, not only with gear choices (and wish lists) but also in understanding terminology and such. The practical value of this membership is a wonderful resource that I am very grateful to be able to draw from. Most of my efforts have been in smaller clubs/ bars (although I did a couple of local outdoor festivals this summer also.)   

I own two DR-2d recorders which I have employed in a variety of configurations.  I have often recorded an audience capture with one recorder and a soundboard patch on the other at times when it wasn’t possible to run cables all to one spot.
My most involved setup thus far has been to capture three stereo sources; my audience mics, usually with a ‘dual’ setting of -6dB for a safety track on one recorder, and the other recorder is set up with stage mics (mic in) and board feed (line in.)
I use NCH programs mostly - WavePad for editing, MixPad for mixing, and Switch for converting. The longest tracks I have mixed were @ 2 hours. My experiences in post have been very satisfactory to my ears – after meticulously lining up the two (or three) sources and experimenting with the volume of each and mixing down to a wav.

I guess I have used a lot of words trying to say that with my limited experience and knowledge, I have not found that any discernible difference in how files from these two recorders match up.

[Gutbucket]

That's good to hear. I also have a second DR2d but have not run both for the same recording.. yet.  I quite happily replaced the two R-09s with the first DR2d to get 4 synced channels in a single small recorder.  Whenever I've needed more than 4 channels I use a DR680, or two different recorders to eliminate running long cables like you are doing. 

However, I've been scheming on some 5 or 6 channel setups which would be best realized by using the two DR2ds rather than the DR680, so I've been thinking about splitting one (or two) of the six mic channels and sending that to both recorders so I have one (or two) identical tracks on both machines for easier syncing.  I'm not looking forward to syncing and stretching again, but that would make doing so far less of a hassle. The recorders would be located together so I could start and stop the transports of both simultaneously with a single IR remote (probably not so simultaneously as to not have to align the start of the tracks, but within a few 10s of milliseconds I'd guess).

Now if someone would make a R09/DR2d sized 6 channel input recorder in my budget range I'd forget this nonsense.

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

I'm not sure exactly how the HD-P2 Time Code input works, but it has one...  Maybe you can slave it off the FR2LE???

the fostex has no digi in/out. It's a nice recorder, on it's own, just don't plan on using it as part of a group unless you love stretch work.

Ahh...  Too bad...

Terry

[Hypnocracy]

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back in the Matrix-Mix game with the old iRiver/AD20-FR2LE....just got it to boot with the new battery charged...gave me a scare at first...after charge would not boot...so I pulled out a old iHP140 that died a couple of years ago thinking the HD may be fried....the 40 gig booted but to the native iRiver software....hooked the 20gig back up and it booted the next time...

[jbell]

CFmod!!  Uses less battery and you don't have hard drive noise.  Cheap and easy to do.

Hallelujah.....Hallelujah....Hallelujah.....Hallelujah....Halleeeeeeeelujah....

back in the Matrix-Mix game with the old iRiver/AD20-FR2LE....just got it to boot with the new battery charged...gave me a scare at first...after charge would not boot...so I pulled out a old iHP140 that died a couple of years ago thinking the HD may be fried....the 40 gig booted but to the native iRiver software....hooked the 20gig back up and it booted the next time...