Sony 4k Handycam

[allan]

The curved stuff sounds like a stupid gimmick for sure, a curved screen works if its 80 ft wide and curved, at 50 inches and curved, seems like youd have to be sitting a foot away from it to get the same effect.

[izumiblue]

Probably I am wrong but sometimes when after I watched my video and switch to TV broadcast, I  cannot understand why my recording is not beautiful like TV broadcasting, even though I used 1920x1080p AVCHD FX mode to record.
So 4K camera will be the answer to my question. I am not happy with the current HD camera resolution when I watching the TV pro shot video.

[Red Boink]

Professional have the best sensors and lenses, that's why their work looks  better and why owner/operators charge a thousand+ for a 10 hour day, including an audio assist.

[ScoobieKW]

Professional have the best sensors and lenses, that's why their work looks  better and why owner/operators charge a thousand+ for a 10 hour day, including an audio assist.

At a 1000, you are getting a deal. Day rate for camera operator alone is $400 or so in Seattle, add in an audio assistant $350. To get camera rental, audio recorder, mics, etc for $250 on a single day rental is a steal.

Rule of thumb is your weekly rental price is 10% of new, and with the standard 3 day price for a week rental, the $250 would get you 7500 in gear. We know how little that is when you talk about pro gear. By our standards a pro record package would be 2-4,000 and a camera can go much higher. Hell the lens alone can go higher.

(employee of a Production company that specializes in broadcast quality video. currently moving into the 4K realm)

[beroti_music]

Professional have the best sensors and lenses, that's why their work looks  better and why owner/operators charge a thousand+ for a 10 hour day, including an audio assist.

At a 1000, you are getting a deal. Day rate for camera operator alone is $400 or so in Seattle, add in an audio assistant $350. To get camera rental, audio recorder, mics, etc for $250 on a single day rental is a steal.

Rule of thumb is your weekly rental price is 10% of new, and with the standard 3 day price for a week rental, the $250 would get you 7500 in gear. We know how little that is when you talk about pro gear. By our standards a pro record package would be 2-4,000 and a camera can go much higher. Hell the lens alone can go higher.

(employee of a Production company that specializes in broadcast quality video. currently moving into the 4K realm)

Great info. Thanks!

[beroti_music]

So.... Over a year since this topic was made.

Who is shooting 4k now?

I still don't see the advantage.... 

[yug du nord]

A buddy of mine just told me that 1hour of 4K video = approx. 64GB. 
Is this accurate??

[Datfly]

My Panasonic FZ1000 starts a new file approx. every 6 min and each file is 3.97GB.

[Datfly]

So.... Over a year since this topic was made.

Who is shooting 4k now?

I still don't see the advantage.... 

I can only offer that going from the Sony HX20V that shoots 1080 HD to the Panasonic FZ1000 that shoots 4K the difference is
obvious for me and low light shooting is phenomenal even rezzed down to 1080 it is better then the 1080 my HX20V shot.


Same club different dates

Samantha Fish shot in 4K rezzed down to 1080 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKxl3_whZe0
Samantha Fish shot in 1080                             - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_wErt2dFCo

The Who Miami 1080 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxuO_lixUWo
The Who Miami 4K    -

[beatkilla]

Looks good Datfly.

Was curious if you shoot any video with your Canon Dslr with 300 2.8.

[beroti_music]

Looks good indeed!

But I wonder how much of the better image quality has to do with the fact that it's been shot in 4k and how much is due to the fact that the
Panasonic has a 1 inch sensor while the sony photocam has a much smaller sensor.

[Chrisedge]

So.... Over a year since this topic was made.

Who is shooting 4k now?

I still don't see the advantage.... 

I can only offer that going from the Sony HX20V that shoots 1080 HD to the Panasonic FZ1000 that shoots 4K the difference is
obvious for me and low light shooting is phenomenal even rezzed down to 1080 it is better then the 1080 my HX20V shot.


Same club different dates

Samantha Fish shot in 4K rezzed down to 1080 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKxl3_whZe0
Samantha Fish shot in 1080                             - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_wErt2dFCo

The Who Miami 1080 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxuO_lixUWo
The Who Miami 4K    - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMZBIlCkXDM

Have you had any issues getting the camera in the door? That is one reason I love my HX9V is cause it's small (P&S) vs that Panasonic that looks like a DSLR...

[beroti_music]

So.... Over a year since this topic was made.

Who is shooting 4k now?

I still don't see the advantage.... 

I can only offer that going from the Sony HX20V that shoots 1080 HD to the Panasonic FZ1000 that shoots 4K the difference is
obvious for me and low light shooting is phenomenal even rezzed down to 1080 it is better then the 1080 my HX20V shot.


Same club different dates

Samantha Fish shot in 4K rezzed down to 1080 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKxl3_whZe0
Samantha Fish shot in 1080                             - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_wErt2dFCo

The Who Miami 1080 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxuO_lixUWo
The Who Miami 4K    - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMZBIlCkXDM

Have you had any issues getting the camera in the door? That is one reason I love my HX9V is cause it's small (P&S) vs that Panasonic that looks like a DSLR...

same here.

[fguidry]

So.... Over a year since this topic was made.

Who is shooting 4k now?

I still don't see the advantage.... 

I wouldn't buy a new camera that didn't shoot 4K because the extra resolution lets me do a lot of cropping and panning in post. I use a 720p timeline so I can crop 3 to 1 without taking a hit in the final render. This can mean shooting a duo then moving between them in post, or shooting a player and doing a zoom to the guitar neck or face without losing quality. It also means I can be looser with my framing and tighten up in post without getting fuzzy.

Fran

[beroti_music]

So.... Over a year since this topic was made.

Who is shooting 4k now?

I still don't see the advantage.... 

I wouldn't buy a new camera that didn't shoot 4K because the extra resolution lets me do a lot of cropping and panning in post. I use a 720p timeline so I can crop 3 to 1 without taking a hit in the final render. This can mean shooting a duo then moving between them in post, or shooting a player and doing a zoom to the guitar neck or face without losing quality. It also means I can be looser with my framing and tighten up in post without getting fuzzy.

Fran

The panning is nice and can be an advantage of 4k.

However, a 720p timeline is not something I prefer.
I shoot in 1080p so I keep the timeline 1080p.

Being able to be looser with the framing wouldnt be an advantage to me either.
I'd rather have a good shot straight away instead of to tighten it all up afterwards.
Editing is not really something I enjoy doing. It's just a job that needs to be done.
The less time I spend editing, the better.